Hi Fordulant. Welcome to the board.
Cellist
hi, i found this discussion forum and felt a need to tell my story, and prehaps talk to people who have an understanding of what it feels like and means to be brought up a jehovahs witness.
i was practically born into a jehovahs witness family, there was my mother, my sister and myself, my father (a non-believer) left when i was 3. i can remember my mum telling me that i would never get to school as armagedden would be here before then, then i can remember her saying that i would never get to high school as armagedden would be here.... it was a kind of running theme, mum always lived expecting the end of the world the next day.
mum re-married when i was 6 and her new husband quickly became an elder in the congregation, i also gained 2 step-sisters and a step-brother, who did not live with us but their mother who was not a jw.
Hi Fordulant. Welcome to the board.
Cellist
i always was fascinated with cars and driving.
when i was a child going to school, often i sat in the front seat, just to look at the bus driver change gears, press on the clutch and just by looking at the way he did it helped me when i drove my first manual transmission car.. here is a picture of my first car.
an old 1974 volks wagen beetle.
My Dad started letting me drive his truck on back roads when I was 14. I got my license when I was 16.
Cellist
how do i make that claim?
i will explain the reasoning but i need some help and quotes from the insight book if some of you can help me since i currently have limited access to jw literature.. the jw's believe that a global flood occurred and all mankind except for noah, his 3 sons and their wives survived.
that leaves only 1 family of the same language and nationality to "start over".. the jw's believe that some time after the global flood nimrod and others (there must have been many) sought to build a large tower - the tower of babel.
That's just too much math for my brain New Year's Day morning.
I would think that a religious person would simply doubt science's dating of the pyramids. After all, if they still believe in a flood they're discounting all the scientific evidence saying that it's physically impossible.
But, you never know what will cut through the fog. After all, most of us here once accepted the flood story.
Cellist
how do i make that claim?
i will explain the reasoning but i need some help and quotes from the insight book if some of you can help me since i currently have limited access to jw literature.. the jw's believe that a global flood occurred and all mankind except for noah, his 3 sons and their wives survived.
that leaves only 1 family of the same language and nationality to "start over".. the jw's believe that some time after the global flood nimrod and others (there must have been many) sought to build a large tower - the tower of babel.
Hello. We dusted off the "Insight" books and it says there that the flood occurred in 2370 B.C.E.
As far as the tower of Babel, they say that the timing can be estimated by Peleg who lived during that time. He lived from 2269 to 2030. It doesn't say how many languages. Neither does the "Aid" book.
Hope that helps.
Cellist
this is the next phase of my coming-out.
here, described in detail, is all the drama of my involvement with the local kingdom hall.. kingdom hall diary, an outsider's perspective.
this is a diary of my experiences with a local kingdom hall that my husband, art, attends.
Thank you for posting that, jgnat. It was a wonderful read. I hope Art's mind is somehow freed from that abusive group!
Cellist
i have been lurking in this site for more than three years now.
i want to thank the people who work to maintain this forum, for as in the the case of hundreds of others in need of help, this site has been key in my exit from the wt slavery and emotional recovery.
it was in this site that i learned about ray franz.
Welcome Rowan! Glad you decided to delurk and glad to have you here.
Cellist
pleased to meet u all!
i'm a newbie with a messed up head (thanks to all those wasted years).. my biggest problems are with guilt - i think its due to being raised as a jw.
i feel guilty for almost everything - even when i know i haven't done anything wrong!
We got rid of those catch-phrases by either rewording them or reapplying them. We turned them into a joke rather than a serious matter. For instance: "Bad association spoils useful habits" we began applying to the JWs instead of the nonJWs. It broke up the programmed responses.
Cellist
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i would like to thank you all for your contributions and help.im sorry to storm in like that at first my mistake ups.and now i will go and make a start and do some reserch into what these people are realy like i will let you know how im getting on.. happy new year to you all .
the devil
Happy New Year! All the best wishes in your endeavors.
Cellist
what kind of people are you !!
realy if you had a loved member of your family hurt in a accident and needed blood you would let them die what and all you come out with is they will come back in he new system what a load of shite you talk.
there is not going to be a new system its all a load of bollocks make no wonder your breath stinks of shite as its all the shit what comes out of it .
Welcome, devil. I hope you have success in getting your daughter to think.
Cellist
hi i'm doing this for the fourth time.
so just a short message.hi, will see if i'm doing it right.
Welcome.
Cellist