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  Do you recall your "point of no return"?

  by JH in

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  was there something special that happened, an event or maybe a deception, that triggered your point of no return as a jw.. .

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  Yes, there were two contradictory articles on "the Princes in all the earth" that were printed within a month or so of each other. Since both couldn't be true, we had to question ourselves on which one was true. As soon as we allowed ourselves to question what was written in a Watchtower then every thing was open to question. "Stopthink" was suspended.
  
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  Born Againers and that Small Voice

  by timetochange in

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  my born again neighbor keeps talking about a small voice that he and those in his church hear.

  a poster here also mentioned it:.

  i let my "little voice" inside tell me yes, do it or no dont....so far since i accepted the real truth (1989) has not led me astray i believe that is the holy spirit> that little voice -because the bible says the holy spirit will teach you all things....i am still learning but it is wonderful to know i am saved by grace no works,,,,,,,,just faith.. can any born again christians here clarify this?

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  Narkissos, I think you must be bringing up an uncomfortable point. Nobody seems to want to comment on it.
  
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  "Must We Always Tell The Truth?" WT Feb.1

  by Cellist in

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  if this has been brought up already, i apologize.

  but, we just received the latest magazine with the title, "must we always tell the truth?".

  i was curious to see how they handled this topic, with their "theocratic warfare" (aka lying) in mind.

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  under_believer, I agree. It's the double standard that irritates me.
  
  Dave, Interestingly, they do quote "a dictionary". 'A dictionary defines a lie as "an assertion of something known or bleieved by the speaker to be untrue with intent to deceive."' No mention of which dictionary.
  
  Actually the article makes very good points. It's the fact that they try to present themselves to the world (and themselves) as completely truthful people. They used to be proud of the fact that they ALWAYS told the truth. Now they're trying to give themselves permission to be human and lie when needed, but still hold on to the image of being more truthful than everyone else.
  
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  "Must We Always Tell The Truth?" WT Feb.1

  by Cellist in

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  if this has been brought up already, i apologize.

  but, we just received the latest magazine with the title, "must we always tell the truth?".

  i was curious to see how they handled this topic, with their "theocratic warfare" (aka lying) in mind.

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  If this has been brought up already, I apologize. But, we just received the latest magazine with the title, "Must We Always Tell The Truth?". I was curious to see how they handled this topic, with their "theocratic warfare" (aka lying) in mind.
  
  The first thing that caught my eye (pg. 6) was the bold print; "Every lie is an untruth, but not every untruth is a lie". Following that it says; "Moreover, we need to consider whether the person asking for information is entitled to a comprehensive answer." Then they go into all sorts of examples to show where it's alright to lie. (Such lovers of truth)
  
  So, thanks to the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" I now know how to lie correctly with a "clean conscience". Silly me, here I was thinking that all lying was wrong! LOL
  
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  You don't want your kids to die, do you??

  by TJ - iAmCleared2Land in

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  'if not, you better get them out to preach six hours a day during summer break!!'.

  this is my first post here... i stopped associating a just about a year ago, serving as an elder (wt conductor) up until i stopped going.

  multi-generational jw, baptized 1984, pioneered, all that stuff.

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  Welcome to the board, TJ.
  
  The emotional abuse that's been handed out over the years is truly sickening.
  
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  OH, THE IRONY OF IT ALL.............Global Warming

  by Warlock in

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  "blizzard targets northeast".

  "record snow falls for date in chicago".

  "hearing on 'warming of planet' cancelled because of ice storms".

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  I'm still waiting for global warming. And YES! I do know that it actually means extreme weather patterns. But I'm still waiting for global warming. lol
  
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  LOTS of New Ones Continue to Join Us!!!! Let's WELCOME them!!!!!

  by Lady Liberty in

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  dear new ones,.

  sometimes you post your first post in the middle of a thread, and you slip by without being properly "welcomed"!

  so we want to welcome you and thank you all for stepping forward, for sharing your comments and your stories.

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  A big welcome from me too.
  
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  Australian Bethel Visit - I have to get this off my chest

  by wozadummy in

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  i was baptized in adelaide south australia in 1983 and around this time my first wife and i , along with our small children decided to go to the bethel in sydney new south wales as part of our holiday one summer.

  we camped along the way as we travelled the coast road from adelaide and had a really interesting time and when we got to sydney we decided to stay at a caravan camping ground right near bethel ,so we did not have to travell far the next day for our visit there.. when we pulled in to the park and went to register at the office the two people in charge seemed to be very strained and distant when we spoke to them .we setup our tent and unpacked to settle in for dinner and on the way to the shower block i spoke to someone there for a few minutes and remarked that the people who ran this park did'nt seem too freindly.

  he then pointed out why, that day a man had killed one of his family and everyone felt nervous and upset because of this .. of course i jumped into witness mode as i was full of "the spirit" not being long baptised ,but just got a blank stare and i knew i should not persue this any more - i feel so stupid now but i'm sure some here can relate to this blind faith enthusiasm as a chance to witness to the great god of the printing presses and think we can help heal all the troubles of the world!.

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  It is comforting to know that you're not the only one, isn't it? I don't know how many times in my life I've felt that there must be something wrong with myself, and then find out later that the problem wasn't me.
  
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  OK... So it's TOE the line

  by zack in

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  "toe the line" ---- like soldiers lining up in formation, their toes are in line, dress-right-dress.

  heil the furher!

  "tow the line"--- means nothing like it---- means nothing really..

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  LOL Yes, that particular misspelling has bothered me too.
  
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  Something is in the basement...

  by frozen one in

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  this morning i was doing my typical sunday morning routine, which consists of pretty much nothing, and went to the kitchen for a coffee.

  i noticed that one of my cats was sitting next to the basement door which was an odd place for the cat to be sitting but i didn't give it a second thought.

  a bit later i went to refill my coffee cup and the cat was in the same place.

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  Yes, as long as there's any hole at all the bird probably came down the chimney. I'm glad you were able to get the bird out without too much trouble.
  
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