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Jehovah's Witnesses are donating a blood-cell salvage machine to a hospital that takes away the need for transfusion in surgery. Members of the religion traditionally refuse blood transfusions because they conflict with their beliefs. The Fresenius Continuous Autologus Transfusion System (Cats), which is being donated to St Mary's Hospital in Newport on the Isle of Wight, re-circulates a patient's own blood during operations. John Carruthers, a spokesman for the Jehovah's Witnesses, said he hoped the machine, which is being delivered on Monday, would also be an advantage to other people.

Because of teachings in the Bible, Jehovah's Witnesses do not touch blood that is not their own.
"This machine will mean that when they require surgery there is no need for blood transfusions to be used." The fundraising for the £19,000 Fresenius Kabi machine was set up on the island because of the high proportion of Jehovah's Witnesses who live there. Mr Carruthers added: "But we hope it will also be useful for the wider community, since as more people become aware of the potential health risks of blood transfusions they will be able to use it as well." Dr Michael Hof, senior consultant at St Mary's, welcomed the fact the reduction in health risks of transfusions could potentially save the NHS millions of pounds. He said: "Unfortunately, the rest of the world is ahead of the United Kingdom as far as the use of cell salvage is concerned.

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Next get together in Toronto!!! :-)

by peterstride in

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hi gang, .

to make it easier for the out of towners (especially the ones driving in from the us), how does everyone feel about having our next get together on a saturday...say saturday, august 18th, starting at 4pm?

(i'll be working on the 11th and the 25th...).

apostate

Amen

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Next get together in Toronto!!! :-)

by peterstride in

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hi gang, .

to make it easier for the out of towners (especially the ones driving in from the us), how does everyone feel about having our next get together on a saturday...say saturday, august 18th, starting at 4pm?

(i'll be working on the 11th and the 25th...).

apostate

I will be there too.

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God's Beginning?

by Black Man in

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what do you think of the wtbts explaining away of god not having a beginning?

ps.

90:2 is always quoted and explained as he's always just been there and that we as humans will never grasp that concept because we have a beginning and will have an ending (death).

apostate

Once in service I ran into a professor who was knowledgeable in evolution. We shoved him the How Did Life Get Here book. The whole book is ridiculing evolutionists who believe that life just started to evolve out of nothing. Yes he said it sounds unbelievable, but it is still more believable than a God who was able to create everything got here out of nowhere without a creator.

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Brain Surgery Possible Without Blood Transfusion

by apostate in

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brain surgery possible without blood transfusion .

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010725/hl/blood_1.html .

new york (reuters health) - patients who object to blood transfusions for religious reasons may still be able to safely undergo brain or spinal surgery, researchers report.

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Brain Surgery Possible Without Blood Transfusion
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010725/hl/blood_1.html

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Patients who object to blood transfusions for religious reasons may still be able to safely undergo brain or spinal surgery, researchers report. In a new study, patients who refused blood transfusions for religious reasons fared almost as well as ``control'' patients undergoing similar procedures who did have blood transfusions.
Jehovah's Witnesses are forbidden by their religion to receive medical treatment that involves the administration of blood transfusions or blood products, even where such treatment could be lifesaving. But these patients sometimes accept the use of blood-free products called volume expanders--solutions that are mixed with their own blood to make up for blood lost during surgery--or agree to allow their own blood to be collected and ``recycled'' during the procedure with a device known as a cell saver.
Dr. Silke Suess of the Free University of Berlin, Germany and colleagues looked at the outcomes of neurosurgery performed on 103 Jehovah's Witnesses and 515 control patients who underwent similar surgeries. Most of the patients had brain or spinal diseases, such as a brain tumor or herniated disc, although a few had head injuries.
Blood loss during surgery was 35% lower in spinal surgery and 40% lower in brain surgery for Jehovah's Witnesses than for the other patients, suggesting that surgeons took more steps to limit and control bleeding during the surgery.
On average, it took surgeons 18 minutes longer to perform a spinal surgery and 37 minutes longer to perform cranial surgery on a Jehovah's Witness patient compared with a patient who did not object to blood transfusions.
However, six patients (4%) in the Jehovah's Witness group did suffer blood loss sufficient to require extended time in the intensive care unit and more days convalescing. In comparison, about 8% to 20% of the control patients experienced significant blood loss, and 15 of those patients required a blood transfusion.
On average, Jehovah's Witnesses spent 15% more time in the hospital than the control group did, the authors report in the August issue of the journal Neurosurgery.
``Neurosurgery traditionally has been very bloody. It does not have to be so,'' Dr. Patrick J. Kelly of the New York Medical Center in New York City writes in an accompanying commentary.
``Minimally invasive procedures and attention to (stopping blood loss) can reduce intraoperative blood loss considerably,'' he added.
``If we are to perform surgery in (Jehovah's Witness) patients, we must play by their rules, which, in my opinion, are not as onerous as some may believe,'' Kelly concludes.

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famous Jw

by freakshow in

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just curious are any well known famous people jw?

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apostate

Tony Braxton

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=5836&site=3#68002