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  The great crowd gets tested twice .

  by moomanchu in

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  2. beliefs

  the great crowd gets tested twice .

  they have to remain faithful through armagedon or be faithful till death .

  to enter the paradise .. they must also pass another test of faith at the.

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  Neo

  Doesn't make any sense to me.

  I asked this question at a sheperding call and just got

  a strange look and then the subject was changed

  It's too common!! This happens all the time, they don't wanna deal with hard questions.
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  Clarifying the new policy regarding DF'd and DA'd announcements

  by booker-t in

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  2. friends

  i read that in the new organized to do jehovah's will book coming out in march at the kh, elders will on say sister so and so is no longer one of jw's.

  an elder that i work with said that they will announce from now on joe bloe has been disfellowshipped from the christian cong and is no longer a jw.

  or jan bloe has disassociated herself and is no longer one of jw's so they are still going to say df and da but i think they are going to drop the part "conduct unbecoming of a christian" because this can get them into legal trouble when a person goes to the military or votes or takes a blood transfusion.

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  An elder that I work with said that they will announce from now on Joe Bloe has been disfellowshipped from the christian cong and is no longer a JW. Or Jan Bloe has Disassociated herself and is no longer one of JW's so they are still going to say DF and DA

  The issue needs some clarification now. The poster by the name of Mark has posted otherwise in the thread DA-ing Announcement in the Society's New Book.

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  Just got back from the 2004-2005 circuit assembly here are a few thoughts.

  by PaNiCAtTaCk in

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  2. friends

  upon arriving i ran into lots of old friends and really enjoyed seeing everyone and visiting.

  they dont know that im currently struggling with doubts about the organization and they think that im the same old zealous brother.

  i couldnt help but feel a sence of guilt visiting with them about our current number of publishers and how many we had pioneering ect.

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  Neo

  and creating a new account everytime I would like to write a contribution is more than I am prepared to do

  Most likely you weren't deactivated in your first account; I can see nothing in your first post to make you get the boot. So please don't you use this as an excuse for a hit-and-run strategy.

  You raise a lot of challenging issues and they can all be answered, one-by-one. We could start by Observador's comments. What exactly is incorrect in the thread-starting post? Generic claims don't answer anything.

  Welcome to the Forum. Don't try to stereotype everyone in the board as if everybody had the same attitude. Let's have a nice conversation.

  Neo

  "But a slave of the Lord does not need to fight, but needs to be gentle toward all." - 2 Timothy 2:24
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  Did the WTS use the "Seven Times" in Daniel before 1914?

  by Elsewhere in

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  2. friends

  right now the only way the wts calculates the date of 1914 as the end of the "gentile times" is by using the seven times mentioned in daniel.. i was reading a post by almostatheist in another thread where he posted a link to quotes website about changes in the literature... changing what has been published.

  i noticed that they made changes to how they calculated 1874 as the end of the "gentile times" and ended up with 1914 after the fact.

  (contrary to what jws now tell you, they did not predict 1914 as the end of the gentile times... instead they had predicted it "as marking the beginning of the period of trouble" - the "great tribulation".).

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  Neo

  We know that the idea didn't originate with Russell. But his first presentation of the seven times of Daniel 4 in connection to 1914 was in the Bible Examiner in the October 1876 issue, page 27. By that time, the WTS still didn't exist; the Bible Examiner was an Adventist magazine that belonged to George Storrs, and the WT mag was first published in 1879.

  Russell claimed that his subsequent piramidological studies corraborated his interpretation of Daniel 4.

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  *** NEW DVD _ YOUNG PEOPLE ASK: WHAT WILL I DO WITH MY LIFE ***

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is an in-depth look at the new dvd released this fall.

  it is primarily designed for young jehovah?s witnesses; in fact, the whole dvd is geared towards witness youth only.. .

  on the front cover there are 8 happy youths carrying school books and bags.

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  Noah did not preach

  by TheListener in

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  2. bible

  i don't believe noah preached.. the society says he did.. it's me against them - .

  genesis agrees with me and 2 peter 2:5 agrees with them.

  please provide any insight.

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  Neo

  How did Noah do at the door?

  NOAH: Good Morning. My name is Noah and I'm calling....

  HOUSEHOLDER: (Interrupting) Look, man, make it quick. I'm busy eating and drinking.

  NOAH: Well, I'll be brief then. I'm calling on you and your neighbours to discuss world conditions. What do you feel is the most urgent problem we face today?

  HOUSEHOLDER: Well, first of all, it never rains.

  NOAH: Well, yes, that's because....

  HOUSEHOLDER: And second of all, we have a public eyesore in the neighbourhood.

  NOAH: Oh, really, and what is that?

  HOUSEHOLDER: Some religious nut on the other side of the hill is building this great big boat of some kind. True, everybody likes to tinker on the weekends but this guy is going overboard.

  NOAH: Strange you should mention "overboard"....

  HOUSEHOLDER: What?

  NOAH: Oh nothing.

  HOUSEHOLDER: Look, Mr. Noah, I admire your zeal and devotion, but I've had discussions with members of your family before, and I'm not interested. Besides, I'm busy getting ready for my daughter's wedding. You should see the guy she is marrying...WOW!...he must be 9 feet tall, if he's an inch. His name is Nephilim...Irving Nephilim. You should see the size shirt he wears. I'd be swimming in it.

  NOAH: Funny you should mention swimming.

  HOUSEHOLDER: What?

  NOAH: Oh nothing.

  HOUSEHOLDER: (continuing)...And you should see the honeymoon they're taking. Forty fun filled days and forty exciting nights on scenic Mount Ararat. It should be nice if the weather stays as it is.

  NOAH: I wouldn't count on it.

  HOUSEHOLDER: What?

  NOAH: Oh nothing. (Noah leaves).

  HOUSEHOLDER: (to wife) What a strange guy that was at the door...

  WIFE: Who was that dear?

  HOUSEHOLDER: I don't know, some preacher of righteousness. And he sure smelled like animals.

  WIFE: Well, maybe he owns a pet shop.

  HOUSEHOLDER: Could be. Are you all ready to go to the wedding?

  WIFE: Yes, I'm ready. Say dear, I haven't seen you with that hat before.

  HOUSEHOLDER: I know, but it sure looks like rain!

  (written by a dub )
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  UK JW Child Abuse Issues

  by diamondblue1974 in

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  2. child-abuse

  as an academic lawyer i am particularly interested in child protection and human rights issues; having been a victim and also knowing many more victims within the jw organisation.

  my legal research on this issue is comprehensive and i am interested in obtaining any other information about how cases are progressing in the usa (successes and failures).

  i am a supporter of silentlambs and i am interested in furthering the legal cases to this country also.

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  A Jehovah's Witness CANNOT Say These Words

  by steve2 in

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  in five words or less, please give examples of statements no jehovah's witness in good standing could ever say.

  here are two examples:.

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  Neo

  BTW, the above words come straight from the New World Translation! They are found in Hebrews 1:3.

  Neo
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  The Young Witness Exodus Continues

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just found out that , on my wife's side of the family, the last witness kid has given up!.

  he was the very last one in that half of our extended witness family.

  ten years ago, i never would have.

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  Neo

  News flash: I've just learned that a young girl in my area told her parents that she doesn't want to be a Witness anymore. She had the guts to tell it straight up, unlike most Witness youngsters who prudently decide to fade away quietly. She's about 19, is unemployed and still lives with her parents.

  Zek,

  Yes, in "spiritual paradise," it's the parents who get orphaned.

  Indeed! In this case, she was allowed to stay with her parents, but her mother got sick when she learned of her daugther's decision and is receiving psychiatric help.
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  A Jehovah's Witness CANNOT Say These Words

  by steve2 in

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  in five words or less, please give examples of statements no jehovah's witness in good standing could ever say.

  here are two examples:.

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  Neo

  Jesus sustains all things by the word of his power.