i have been a jw for more than 20 years, but during these past few years i have come to realize that some of the elders and regular publishers are very hypocritical and insensitive.
they have done things that really disgust me.
tare so arrogant that they cannot take any criticism form you.
Hi, parakete!! Welcome to the forum. I look forward to seeing more posts from you.
There are a couple of threads on JWD you may wanna read:
Welcome again!
Neo
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seems there are a lot of picture topics flying around lately, so here's another which i often think about when trying to imagine the people behind the posts i read.
is there anyone in particular whose posts you read and would like to see a picture of?
Is that you, Min?
how's things with you?
it's been an eventful week for many of us with much sadness for some.
we send sympathy to mulan and big red, steve and princess.
10. We must be near the end.
WTS Official Spin on monthly Awake: 'More emphasis on the Bible!'
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seems there are a lot of picture topics flying around lately, so here's another which i often think about when trying to imagine the people behind the posts i read.
is there anyone in particular whose posts you read and would like to see a picture of?
Gluteus Minimus
i never properly introduced myself.
i just hopped on and started posting!
my story reads pretty much the same as most of yours.
(((heatherg)))
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i remember about 5 or 6 years ago,they introduced the pioneer-assist program at one of the service meetings.the purpose of of this program was for the spiritually-strong pioneers to go out in service with an r&f member on a weekly basis for about 6 months to help build up others in the congregation.part of this was because in the mid to late 90's a large number of people had become jw's and they wanted to make good publishers with them.. anyways,my wife was quickly signed up as was another young sister down the road.my wife was excited about it and was really hoping to benefit spiritually.within a few weeks though,her pioneer partner started making up excuses why she couldn't go out with my wife until eventually their arrangement just petered out.the young sister down the road was also quickly ditched;the pioneer saying she had to care for her elderly mother(she didn't stop pioneering though).before long the pioneer clique was back to normal and the spiritually-strong pioneers were again going out in service with other spiritually-strong pioneers.i don't recall any updates or the program itself ever mentioned again at the kingdom hall,like it was just a bad experiment or a major burden on the pioneers.. does anyone have any experiences with the pioneer-assist program?
That "pioneer-assist" program was a complete joke that only existed in the minds of a few Bethel heavies. It doesn't work; most of the new publishers get apathetic quickly, pioneers don't wanna have another chore and the elders are so busy with WT stuff that they don't even want to remind themselves that such "arrangement" exists.
The organization is dry and sterile. New ideas are extremely hard to implement within such a sluggish environment; 'training new publishers' may spring from good intentions, but the dubs don't have any enthusiasm to make it work out. The times are long gone when "special arrangements" would boost the publishers' zeal.
Thanks for bringing this up. It's good to be reminded that this loving arrangement from Jehovah has been fading into obscurity.
I had been sick with postpartum depression and had panic attacks going door-to-door, so asked the congregation secretary to see if I could go on a study with one of the pioneers. In less than a week, the rumour-mill was going at full tilt that "Sister Scully doesn't want to go door-to-door anymore." Plus, a pioneer sister came up to me at the next meeting and told me that I 'should get my own damn Bible study.'
Reading this makes me sick. People really can distort what you say!
Neo
this is a book supposedly written by enoch that some say was left out of the bible canon by the early church when it was being put together.. i'm in the middle of it and find it very interesting.
it gets into some fascinating details about the pre-flood world than the books in the regular bible canon.
enoch has a lot of visions which are very reminscent of revelation.
Link: Jude and 1 Enoch
"furthermore, the remnant of spiritual israel had for decades ... been looking forward to the ending of the times of the gentiles in the autumn of 1914. they were expecting god's messianic kingdom to be fully established in the heavens by then and also for the remnant of spiritual israel to be glorified with jesus christ in the heavenly kingdom at that time.
all understanding of the holy scriptures was slanted in that direction or adjusted to that idea.
" man's salvation out of world distress at hand, 1975, p.136.
To the writer, it probably seemed expedient to admit to a little slanting in order to appear open and honest.
Good observation!
"furthermore, the remnant of spiritual israel had for decades ... been looking forward to the ending of the times of the gentiles in the autumn of 1914. they were expecting god's messianic kingdom to be fully established in the heavens by then and also for the remnant of spiritual israel to be glorified with jesus christ in the heavenly kingdom at that time.
all understanding of the holy scriptures was slanted in that direction or adjusted to that idea.
" man's salvation out of world distress at hand, 1975, p.136.
Oh boy, what a priceless quote! Guess we have nothing to add. They say it all.
"Furthermore, the remnant of spiritual Israel had for decades ... been looking forward to the ending of the Times of the Gentiles in the autumn of 1914. They were expecting God's Messianic Kingdom to be fully established in the heavens by then and also for the remnant of spiritual Israel to be glorified with Jesus Christ in the heavenly kingdom at that time. All understanding of the Holy Scriptures was slanted in that direction or adjusted to that idea." Man's Salvation Out Of World Distress At Hand, 1975, P.136.
Neo
in light of the time of year, and in response to a request from had enough, i have just posted the 1993 version (does anyone know if there is a more recent one????
) of the memorial talk outline at the quotes site: .
http://quotes.watchtower.ca/observing_the_memorial.htm.
Thanks, Quotes!
Thank you also, geevee, and welcome to JWD!
Neo
