"And what about the form for saying how good/bad/shite your talk was? what was that one called?"
You've got to be kidding! There's actually a form for this? Who all is supposed to fill it out?
poppers - of the never been a dub class
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I placed seven books should I report??????
by imfreeimfree inbearing in mind i do not attend meetings, and theyve stopped calling to get the "report" i will not be able to give them the good news.
what a shame.
is there somewhere else i can report?.
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A Bio of Millions
by millions now living are dead ini thought i would give a quick bio of myself.
i was raised a dubber.
every stinkin' family member of mine is a jw including a huge extended family.
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poppers
Welcome Millions,
"I spend a ridiculous amount of time asking myself, "Who am I?", "What the hell am I doing here?",
I congratulate you on getting to this point - not that many do. If you are sincere in getting an answer to these questions, allow me to suggest you explore nonduality (also known as advaita). Another option is to read "The Power of Now" as an introduction in exploring your true nature.
"Who am I?" This is the most important question that can arise for one who is yearning for truth, and with truth comes unconditional peace and contentment. The answer will never be found in the mind, but rests in that in which the mind arises. However, using the mind to find the source of mind begins with the question "Who am I?" Discover all of those 'things' which you are not, and when all of them have been seen through as illusory what is left is what is real - the real you. This is the Being and the silent consciousness which JamesThomas referred to. We are human beings; most people are thoroughly acquianted with the human part, it's the being part that gets overlooked, and overlooking that is the source of all suffering.
Warmest regards,
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Saved!
by Crumpet inhas anyone else seen the movie saved!?
i watched it last night with mr c and although many aspects were extremely funny, some were so cringeworthy too!.
there's one scene where the head of the "christian jewels" gang tells all her to laugh and look like they were having a good time to try and convert the bad kids to jesus by showing how being a christian is such good fun!
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It looks like a lovely long face to me, Crumpet.
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Philosophy - is it worth the bother?
by Abaddon ini fully admit to only having dabbled in the waters of philosophy up to now.
i kept on being put off by the smell... .
having said that, is there anyone more clued up than me about the subject who can tell me anything that might make me change my mind?.
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Abadonn,
"But surely what you're advancing is a philosophy too, as tal is implying (gently, am I right tal?)."
I am suggesting that the one who invents any/all philosophies is itself an illusion - it is mind created. This one (ego) is what blocks the direct seeing of what is, and instead creates mental frameworks to explain what is - this is quite absurd, isn't it?
Instead of relying on a conceptual framework to filter and explain experience I am suggesting that one drop comepletely this false notion of the 'me' who would create, entertain, argue, defend, and challenge these illusory and mind created positions. This dropping of the ego leaves one in his core essence; life is then no longer tainted by any concept - this is no philosophical position whatsoever, but rather, is life lived directly in the present moment free of all concepts and philosophies. This is true freedom from everything the mind can create, and is the source of unconditional peace, contentment, and love.
To have such a life and describe it to others creates in the mind's of others what can be described as a philosophy, but to live it is beyond all philosophy.
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Philosophy - is it worth the bother?
by Abaddon ini fully admit to only having dabbled in the waters of philosophy up to now.
i kept on being put off by the smell... .
having said that, is there anyone more clued up than me about the subject who can tell me anything that might make me change my mind?.
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"What can study of philosophy give me, or how can it benefit me?"
The only thing it can give you are more concepts to fill up your mind and with which your ego can accept or reject. This in itself is enough to further obscure truth. If it's truth you're looking for drop all concepts and rest in that in which mind arises, rest in that which precedes egoic identity, your true nature. Then all will be seen clearly and truthfully.
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A newbie's impression on this board, pros and cons
by smelly onions incons.
i don't know who is scarier, the jw's or some people on this board.
man, r u guys bitter?
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Hey Rod P,
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What does your name MEAN?
by RichieRich inwe all are identified by our names here on jwd.
some use their real names, and others pick a moniker that is their nickname or perhaps a few words from a song they like.. why did you pick your name?.
for instance,.
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Hey DocHayes, I just want to thank you for what you are doing. I am a former Marine who was attached to a hospital company back in 1970-72. I've got the greatest respect for all of you 'docs' out there, whether or not you are on active duty or not. Thanks again, you're the best! Cpl. 'poppers'
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What Kinds of Jobs Do JWs Have That You Know Of?
by minimus ini was thinking that most jws that i personally know have jobs that they really aren't happy with.
almost no one is a professional except for one cardiologist that got baptized a few years ago.
there's no one that's been raised in the "truth" that has a college education that i know of except one 22 year old young man who has done nothing to seek employment since he graduated.........any witnesses that you know of with great jobs?
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My JW neighbor is an emergency medical technician. When my staunchly Roman Catholic father had a heart attack while attending mass my neighbor responded to the emergency. Dad died, and later I heard someone make the comment that my neighbor wasn't following proper procedure in his assistance. I didn't think too much of it at the time, but later when I learned about some of the beliefs of the jws I began to wonder a bit - I have to wonder how he forced himself to enter the church, and how that played into his emergency response. I also wonder about the blood issue and how reconciles his job and its procedures and his jw beliefs.
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What is Death?
by Blueblades inwhat is death?
is it the ceasing of bodily functions due to illness or malfunction of a vital organ reversing the order of what occured at birth?
is the body nothing more than a shell and subject to ordinary laws affecting matter once deprived of its operating force?
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Not to hijack the thread, but perhaps a more pertinent question to answer is "What is life?" Is it simply a body/mind mechanism reacting to/within the environment, or is there something that lies beneath/beyond that mechanism? Who/what is it that lives? When the answer to these are found then looking for the answer to your question loses relevancy.
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Intro/Is it ok for me to be here?
by Sad emo inis it ok for me to be part of your 'gang'?
you see i'm not a jw and never have been and a bit of of me feels like i'm gatecrashing.. i was raised in a strong roman catholic family - i was expected to believe everything the church taught without question and i did.
when i left school, i found myself working with an evangelical christian who, because she questioned my beliefs slowly made me look into them for myself - i truly hated her at the time for doing that and admit that i made her life a misery in revenge - but eventually i began to see that some of the stuff she was saying was right, we became very good friends and my real journey out of the rc church began.. i was too scared to leave straight away because of the doctrines i'd grown up with - no salvation outside the church and you can only really communicate with god through the priest (big issue here was how do i get my sins forgiven cos if i don't i'm gonna go to hell) - it was another 10 years before i finally plucked up the courage to leave and this was because of two things that happened:.
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Hi Sad emo,
I myself am an ex RC, and had to strugggle with guilt issues when I left. Something never felt right about the church but I could never quite put my finger on exactly what it was. I never was a jw, but I stumbled upon this site when looking for insight into the motivations of a 4th grade student of mine who wanted to hand out WTBTS tracts to classmates (which I didn't allow). What I discovered here was an amazing group of people who had amazing stories to share with others, and who were themselves looking for support, acceptance, and a sense of community. I have felt nothing but acceptance from these people and have grown to love and care about them, and so I continue to frequent this site.
All of us in our own way are searching for peace and wholeness. Some search for it through various teachings and doctrines, which on occasion change. Others search for it by dropping all teachings and doctrines, having discovered how they limit one's actual experience of what is real and true right now this very moment. However you are searching know that you are welcome.