Posts by poppers

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Channeling

by sarahsmile in

last night thought i would do some channeling to you!.

what is your divine insight?.

Wisdom teeth

by Arkady in

i am not a jw.

i am basically here for two reasons:.

1. i am not satisfied with mainstream christianity and i believe that jw (along with other sects) have some things to offer in terms of answering my questions.

By the way, I had the same choice myself recently. I could have had a tooth filled, but was advised that if I didn't have it removed now because of the depth of the decay then the tooth next to it was at severe risk. I chose immediate extraction, and I'm glad I did.

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Wisdom teeth

by Arkady in

i am not a jw.

i am basically here for two reasons:.

1. i am not satisfied with mainstream christianity and i believe that jw (along with other sects) have some things to offer in terms of answering my questions.

poppers

This has to be one of the most asinine questions I've ever seen here. I have an uncle who died from an infected tooth. Do whatever is necessary to ensure good dental health, and if that includes extractions then so be it. This idea of interpreting the Bible in this way is one of the things that makes me cringe. Trust your dentist because they know what's best for you.

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UFO

by molybdenum in

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anybody on this forum ever seen a ufo?.

i mean not ontv or youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jra1vms8zq.

poppers

I used to go out of town to get away from light pollution to watch the sky when I was younger. One clear night I saw a rapidly moving bright light climbing in the eastern sky moving west, directly toward me. It was much brighter and larger than any star and moved much faster than a satellite or commercial jet. Then its light pulsed several times, going from very shiny to a dull gray and then made an instant 90 degree turn to the south. After going a short distance to the south it simply disappeared.

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Quick Poll - How many are...

by mrhhome in

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how many here are (a) ex-jw, (b) non-jw with jw relatives or spouses, (c) inactive jw, or (d) active jw who stay in for your own reasons?.

poppers

e) Non-JW with no friends or family in.

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I am a "semi-apologist"!

by slimboyfat in

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well, according to our pontiff in residence alan f anyway.

what is this some kind of promotion?

after all, i used to used to be an unreformed apologist troll.

poppers

So that GB position is no longer in the cards, slimboyfat?

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The USA and China

by fulltimestudent in

a few days ago, a detachment of the chinese navy started a visit to the us navy base at pearl harbour.. here's a few piks:.

us marine band perform to welcome the chinese fleet at the pearl harbor in hawaii, the united states, sept. 6, 2013. a naval fleet of the chinese people's liberation army (pla), which is comprised of the missile destroyer qingdao, missile frigate linyi and supply ship hongzehu, arrived at the pearl harbor on friday to start a three-day friendly visit, after which it will participate in a search-and-rescue exercise with the u.s. navy.

(xinhua/zha chunming).

poppers

"US marine band perform to welcome the Chinese fleet at the Pearl Harbor in Hawaii, the United States, Sept. 6, 2013."

Ummm...excuse me. Those aren't Marines playing, they are sailors.

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My Walmart encounter with the dubs today

by poppers in

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yup, there were 3 of them camped out in front of the store with their display of materials - first time i've seen them there.

he said he converted 5 years ago from the presbyterians, and that he had learned more in 1 year with the jws than all his time with the presbyterians (the usual stuff, jesus died on a stake, paradise earth, etc).

he claimed he didn't know about the invisible return of jesus, he was dismissive of the impact of disfellowshipping and that people can leave with little consequence, he claimed that the romans didn't use a cross until 200 years after jesus died on the stake.

poppers

When does this idea of impending Armageddon get introduced to people who study with them? Is that part of the "meat" doctrine?

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My Walmart encounter with the dubs today

by poppers in

jw
friends

yup, there were 3 of them camped out in front of the store with their display of materials - first time i've seen them there.

he said he converted 5 years ago from the presbyterians, and that he had learned more in 1 year with the jws than all his time with the presbyterians (the usual stuff, jesus died on a stake, paradise earth, etc).

he claimed he didn't know about the invisible return of jesus, he was dismissive of the impact of disfellowshipping and that people can leave with little consequence, he claimed that the romans didn't use a cross until 200 years after jesus died on the stake.

poppers

Yup, there were 3 of them camped out in front of the store with their display of materials - first time I've seen them there. When I came out of the store later only one guy in his 50s was still there so I asked some questions in a friendly way. He said he converted 5 years ago from the Presbyterians, and that he had learned more in 1 year with the JWs than all his time with the Presbyterians (the usual stuff, Jesus died on a stake, paradise Earth, etc). Yet, when I asked about some things about the teachings of the JWs he was pretty unsure of himself and said he'd have to look into them.

He claimed he didn't know about the invisible return of Jesus, he was dismissive of the impact of disfellowshipping and that people can leave with little consequence, he claimed that the Romans didn't use a cross until 200 years after Jesus died on the stake. I didn't press any issues just to keep him talking and see what things he would equivocate on. The one thing that really stunned me was when I said, "Aren't you the guys that teach about Armageddon coming?" He said no, that he hadn't heard anything about that before, and I pressed him on it a little. Then he said he "wasn't sure", that he's still pretty new in the religion so he needs to study more (after 5 years he was unsure of that particular teaching? Sheesh!).

Later, when the other 2 returned, a middle aged women and an attractive female in her early 20s, I brought up the Armegeddon thing again and the woman explained it a bit. Then I said that the other guy just told me that the JWs didn't teach about it. He looked very uncomfortable when I said that and he denied even doing so. I challenged that statement by saying, "But you just told me that you don't have that teaching."

"Well, I wasn't sure," he said sheepishly. When I first brought it up to him I felt he simply didn't want to make the JWs look too weird to an unsuspecting and possible "recruit". The excuse that he was still learning about the JWs felt pretty flimsy to me. Isn't Armageddon a core teaching that comes pretty early when you study with them? I couldn't believe that he'd outright deny the teaching, and then I was flabbergasted that he denied even making that statement to the others.

I think he's got some 'spaining to do to the others.

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How do I retrieve a PM?

by Frazzled UBM in

poppers

Look for the little envelope next to your name in the top right corner of the screen. When you click on the message it won't open at first, so do a back page and try again until it opens.