unbelievable admissions.. freddie confesses he fell for his own propaganda.. https://youtu.be/fkjw-r9oitk.
Good grief, listening to that, now being out for a few years, it just blows my mind how people could know all of that yet still believe. I understand the mechanisms, it just sounds so crazy once you're out. I'm not sure I had ever heard him speak before.
As others said, thanks for the share.
i might have missed this but blondie was always one of the best posters here.
her analysis and commentary was spot on.. is everything ok with her?
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Good for her if she's leaving to go off and be happy in some other way. She doesn't owe anyone here anything. Fly and be free.
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/jehovahs-witnesses-sue-faithleaks-owners-over-convention-videos .
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/05/01/jehovahs-witnesses-sue-owners-of-faithleaks-for-posting-74-convention-movies/.
the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, which oversees the jehovah’s witnesses, is suing the truth and transparency foundation and its founders ryan c. mcknight and ethan g. dodge alleging copyright infringement..
I wonder if Lloyd donated hoping they would win and now that Watchtower sadly kicked their asses he's worried that he's next. A lot of his work involves JW materials and videos to a large degree. Perhaps this sets a precedent that is unfavorable toward Lloyd's work. I could see that. That's why I am careful not to use their materials or anything copyrighted like songs chosen by my guests on my podcasts. It's not worth it.
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/jehovahs-witnesses-sue-faithleaks-owners-over-convention-videos .
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/05/01/jehovahs-witnesses-sue-owners-of-faithleaks-for-posting-74-convention-movies/.
the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, which oversees the jehovah’s witnesses, is suing the truth and transparency foundation and its founders ryan c. mcknight and ethan g. dodge alleging copyright infringement..
Yikes, I've defended Lloyd a lot, still think he does good work and I have no issue with people donating or paying for whatever they choose (including inclusion in a book), but those comments there are really easy to make when you're not the one facing the bill. It really sounds like he's kicking them while they're down. Not cool. I may have read it wrong but it looks like they may still be facing money damages above and beyond what they raised, and he's the one pissed off. Maybe I'm missing something but his comments are not a good look at first blush.
did flipper host the apostafest, or was it cancelled due to covid 19?.
I don't know if they want me sharing the details so I won't. They probably don't want even more people coming this year in particular. It's called the Midwest Apostafest (there's a page on Facebook for it) and has been going on for years. We usually go but won't this year with Covid. I know some will be attending though. It's a one day even in the large back yard of a private home. They invite a lot of people and it's a good time.
my old account was silent and i had to create a new account which kind of bums me, but here i am.. over the years i've really experienced some rough times emotionally and spiritually which led me down many paths.
being angry most all of time with a few outbursts really started to make me take stock of what was wrong with me.
further i started really going back and trying to figure out where i went wrong.. so i revisted all my previous posts on here.
No, it's not a cult at all. This guy just had to bump every post he's ever commented on to try to justify a dog going back to it's own vomit. Look, look, at least I didn't question the cult leaders directly. It was all meeee, I was just so defective. But I'll be good now, just make sure Jehovah and Jesus know what I really said and let me repent of my once heartfelt expressions so I can get in their good graces. This is one of the saddest displays I've seen. You deserve better Silent. It looks like a battered spouse going back for forgiveness.
did flipper host the apostafest, or was it cancelled due to covid 19?.
It was cancelled. The one in Indy is still on for August.
the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.
- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.
make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).
Call me when this works for people on the regular and they don't end up shunned. The rest is just noise. Watchtower doesn't care about your rights which is why I referred to them as a loophole earlier. It is to Watchtower. The results will be the same even if they have to pivot and just use some other way to label you like saying you disassociated by your actions. Same outcome. People are shunned by them that have never even officially left. I don't see what this does other than provide false hope to people.
just wondering if anyone can confirm or deny this unofficial jw experience that my father received by email.
i’ve told him that it against wt rules to forward unofficial accounts.
but of course he just puts that down to apostate driven lies.
Narcissists. They think their delusion is the center of everything going on in the world. Everyone either loves or hates them, meanwhile few actually care about them on any level. But they're the heroes of their own fantasy lives, and that's enough for them.
the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.
- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.
make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).
People are always looking for some legal loophole to get out without repercussions. This strikes me as just another in the series. JWs don't often care. Sure, you can find an outlier where a legal threat will scare some elder but most don't care, and I've yet to see any evidence of legal recourse being won if they go on to disfellowship you. You joined a club called Jehovah's Witnesses and they'll do what they want in most cases. They don't care about legal technicalities.
Disassociate if you want, fade if you want, try this legal technicality if you want, get disfellowshipped if you want. It's your life.
Leaving is one of the more personal things a person can do. Your decision should be too. It's one of your first opportunities to start living life on your terms, whatever that looks like. Getting out is the most important thing. Go be free and happy.
My wife and I disassociated almost 5 years ago. One of the best decisions we've ever made.
