Posts by dubstepped

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Korean News : CoC in Korean

by AntiEntropy in

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hi bros.. after my father's publishing his book, "15 questions after 40 years of jw" , many ex-jw bros in korea became motivated to rush to the coc korean project.

however any secular project needs a fund eventhough it's a not-for-profit.

fortunately, a bunch of bros decided to donate generously $300~$7,000 to this unprofitable business.

dubstepped

Hadriel: It makes little sense to not want the latest regardless of how small or great the updates are.
Don't believe me put a gallon of mile out marked with first as the expiration date then put jugs behind it with the expiration of the second. comeback at the end of the day and the one jug with the first as the expiration will still be sitting there.
for the final time it takes time to organize such an undertaking. It is really frustrating that so may hang on the well it only takes 24 hours. it doesn't. to update, organize, translate secure long term publisher, artwork etc. It just doesn't happen overnight. To argue otherwise is for the benefit of your agenda.

I think that what people are saying is that something is better than nothing. Don't believe me check out a site called gofundme where people will put up crazy goals and not surprisingly not turn away lesser amounts that they can collect for a goal. In this case people just want to see a book that is beloved and that helped so many available to themselves and/or others. To argue otherwise is to the benefit of your agenda. I'm not promoting pirating, but I'm certainly happy that it was made available out there freely on the internet when I came out of the dubs. It was instrumental in helping me to wake up and confirmed so many things that I thought I was seeing in the organization. We all just want to see it made available so that others can experience that as well and grow to love the man known as Ray Franz that risked so much and made this all available.

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AGREE? or DISAGREE? Popular Music

by Terry in

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friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip0wuwjbdmi.

"from 1955 till present, popular music has declined to the point where it is now consistently "stupid" and homogenous.

".

dubstepped

There is certainly a penchant for creating music featuring cristal, ho's, and the size of one's booty. However, that's just some popular music. There's probably more songs featuring that end of the spectrum as culture widens. There's also lots of room for good songs, and here's just a few examples from the current top songs:

7 Years by Lukas Graham

No by Meghan Trainor seems to be the antithesis to the culture you're pointing out

Love Yourself by Justin Beiber

One Call Away by Charlie Puth

Stitches by Shawn Mendes

Hello by Adele

Taylor Swift, just about any song you want to choose

......and I could go on and on. Those are all recent chart topping hits. You can look at those or choose others to focus on. That's the beauty of music today, that you can find all types. And these are just "pop" songs. There are plenty of rock, country, alternative, rap, etc. songs that aren't what you're focusing on to define modern music. It certainly has that element, along with a huge amount of every other type of music. Maybe certain things weren't talked about back in the day, but that didn't mean that they didn't exist. You can find whatever you want to find in music today.

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AGREE? or DISAGREE? Popular Music

by Terry in

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friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip0wuwjbdmi.

"from 1955 till present, popular music has declined to the point where it is now consistently "stupid" and homogenous.

".

dubstepped

Lol @get off my lawn guy. Lots of musicians get famous without flashing their kootch. There is more variety today than ever, a great time for music. You sound like the dubs carrying on about how awful life is today by focusing on something they don't like to support a narrow view.

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Embellished assembly interviews/"experiences"

by ab.ortega in

oh how wonderful those experiences at assemblies and "schools" are - not.

at times it seemed as if these "experiences" were scripted.

the speaker gets criteria in the outline regarding what the experience or interview has to be about.

dubstepped

Both my wife and I were on various interview parts when we were young. Both of us were pressured to embellish so as to make things more "encouraging". Standing in front of people kind of knowing that you're lying to them or yourself is tough. I remember seeing another reenactment that was fabricated. My mom once called me very distraught after watching my dad lie up there. It happens all the time.

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Got a call, my dad is in hospice...

by dubstepped in

our last conversation was him yelling at me because i "loved the gays".

translation, i pointed out that nobody chooses their sexuality.

i've been shunned since daing last september, and really for a year or so after visiting my df'ed brother.

dubstepped

Update:

My dad died on Monday. I'm honestly not that shaken by it and I think people are put off by that. I said my goodbyes last year when I DA'D in my goodbye letter to my family. I had closure. I think the biggest place I struggled was in being pulled in from shunning, thrust back into the family dynamic, only to have it disappear again. It's a mind-fuck.

I had told my my dad that I might come back and decided against it because we ended things so well. So I texted my mom to let her know to which I was told that it wasn't expected that I would come back anyway and that it was a one time act of mercy. That didn't feel great.

I was called when he died. I've done my best to just let my mom talk when she has me on the phone. I'm there for her as much as I can be, but this is clearly just a business transaction that will be wrapped up shortly.

I found out from a relative on Facebook that his memorial would be on Sunday. Mom never told me about it. She did, however, call me to let me know that obviouyi wouldn't be there, but would it be okay to use my name as one of his sons in the talk. Would it be okay to use my name in the KH. I said of course, as last I checked I was one of his sons.

So, my biggest upheaval isn't over his death. To be blunt I hated him as a kid and once got up in the middle of the night and grabbed a knife to kill him in his sleep. He was very emotionally abusive. I wanted him dead. But over the years I tried hard to repair our relationship and spent the past several years taking him to ballgames, out to eat, fishing, etc. I saw a different size of him then that I enjoyed up until him yelling at me in our conversation about "the gays".

My upheaval is just over the drama surrounding the way I'm disregarded in parts of this as an ongoing thing. It's just all messed up. It hurts, or is confusing, or something. I can't quite put my finger on it but I feel something.

I've had a camping trip planned with friends this weekend for months. While my entire family is at his memorial, I'll be out enjoying nature. It feels wrong on a level, but I know that I don't want to be at his memorial anyway. I hate the elders at that KH and have bad history with them. To walk in and be shunned will draw all attention to me. The talk will be given by people that had no clue who he really was. I'm avoiding potential danger because I could be provoked by two specific elder's to take their heads off. So my weekend plans couldn't be better for me.

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I have tried really hard to be worldly, for ten years, tried to get worldly friends, and get back with family.

by Sledracer in

i am so bad at being worldly, it's not like i gave it a good try, we are just not good at it my husband and i, i see him light up as he has started to read the bible again.

i'm good at being a witness, i am accepted, and hold the same beliefs, i have tried to find somewhere else, if there is a place, why hav'n't jehovah and the angels directed me to it?

thank you for all the loving posts, some of them have been just what i needed.

dubstepped

Sounds to me like you've never figured out who you are apart from a set of religious beliefs. You're so identified with that set of beliefs that even after all these years you're using their vernacular. Spend time reading books that help open your mind to new perspectives if you haven't already. Work on being the best you that you can be. I've found being "worldly" so much easier than being a JW. People aren't expecting me to fit into their mold, they are interested in who I am and vice versa. They don't like me simply because I'm a good JW, they like me because I'm a good person.

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Help messy problem

by poopie in

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the problem is i have a baptized witness going out on service door to door giveing comments at kh who for the last 4 years has had sex with at least 10 prostitutes and regularly takes drugs ie speed the cong has no idea he's doing this he says he will never go to elders for fear his family will shun him if df so he continues i know because he tells me everything should i tell the elders or not.

dubstepped

Aren't you the guy that whines about shunning in every thread you start? Now you want to contribute to someone getting shunned? I'm starting to believe that poopie isn't for real, and my faith is shattered.

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jws deny shunning, yet lie to not look bad

by Ghiagirl in

i recently decided to take matters into my own hands with my husbands family who have nothing to do with us.

his mom has seen my son twice since he has been born and his dad has never met him.

his family will pop in every few months, on top of that like in my last post ask for for money.

dubstepped

You can't get healthy interactions from toxic people. Don't expect it.

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Got a call, my dad is in hospice...

by dubstepped in

our last conversation was him yelling at me because i "loved the gays".

translation, i pointed out that nobody chooses their sexuality.

i've been shunned since daing last september, and really for a year or so after visiting my df'ed brother.

dubstepped

I like that idea JWdaughter. In the end, my relationship with both of my parents was strained since I was a child. Lots of emotional abuse and then, of course, religious abuse. I have good memories but revisiting them brings up lots of pain too. I agree though that for healthy families such a non-JW memorial is a great idea. We were so isolated from any other family that there really wouldn't be many non-JWs to share memories with. I love the idea for better circumstances though.

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Got a call, my dad is in hospice...

by dubstepped in

our last conversation was him yelling at me because i "loved the gays".

translation, i pointed out that nobody chooses their sexuality.

i've been shunned since daing last september, and really for a year or so after visiting my df'ed brother.

dubstepped

Thanks my fellow aposta-peeps. It's such a messed up situation. My brother has been shunned for 13-15 years? and I let him know what was going on. He'd have to fly in if he was to come, and he's so torn about it all.

I do know one thing. No way would I go to a memorial service at a KH for him. My saying goodbye today was the end of the road. My brother won't go to a JW memorial either. There are certain brothers at my parents' congregation that would leave on stretchers if they were their snarky selves to me, and I couldn't stand to listen to their marketing pitch under the guise of being about my dead dad.

It was nice to be included. I respect my mom wholeheartedly for her handling of this. She tried to forbid brothers from stopping by to make sure that what energy dad had left went to his family. Of course, some brothers came anyway because they have no boundaries. But mom has always been her own person. She'll either wake up through this experience or she'll hold on even tighter to her dubdom.