Oh, and I just noticed that it didn't say that necessary family business was okay, it said that ABSOLUTELY necessary family business was okay, as in a last resort, when there's no other choice.
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Necessary Family Business (NFB) is now acceptable according to the weekly WT Study
by Quarterback induring the last decade i've seen so many articles, and top speakers try to downplay that nfb policy.
now, this weeks wt study mentions a positive experience of someone applying having, "contact and applying nfb with a df relative".
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Necessary Family Business (NFB) is now acceptable according to the weekly WT Study
by Quarterback induring the last decade i've seen so many articles, and top speakers try to downplay that nfb policy.
now, this weeks wt study mentions a positive experience of someone applying having, "contact and applying nfb with a df relative".
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LaurenM caught that point about being "FORCED to beg Jehovah for help and forgiveness", and I did too. So much for free will, eh? I thought Jehovah never coerced anyone to serve him.
Let's review.........it's a CULT!
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Necessary Family Business (NFB) is now acceptable according to the weekly WT Study
by Quarterback induring the last decade i've seen so many articles, and top speakers try to downplay that nfb policy.
now, this weeks wt study mentions a positive experience of someone applying having, "contact and applying nfb with a df relative".
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millie210 - Who decides what is "necessary" family business?
Why, Jehovah's Witnesses, of course. Those bastards get to decide everything, the hallmark of any narcissists. The world is their playground and we're just living in it. If they need something, you bet they'll contact their ex-JW relatives. Need money? NFB Sick and need someone to care for you? NFB Let's face it though, it's a one way street. They WANT to see us flounder. The worse any one of us does in the "world", the more it solidifies their narrow minded thinking. They're rooting for us to lose, thinking that will make us come back. They want us to suffer, thinking that will make us come back.
I love how they always find the one example where things worked out for them and use it in their publications, so they too can have the best outcome. Really? Oh, you mean like my dad dying in April, having shunned me for the last year of his life? That was the best outcome? I hate that organization so much. They are sickening.
NFB means nothing more than "whatever suits the JW in the family's needs or wants, so long as it isn't in any way helpful or loving toward the ex-JW".
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Just Sent in My DA Letter!
by Thoughtless inhey, this thread is nothing new so i don't wanna get too personal but i'm happy to announce that i am apart of the 33% club!!
i sent in my da letter this past wednesday (again actually, i sent it in the week before but i got hit with the old 'return to sender') and i sent the letter up to the hq instead.
i did courteously mark it as re: disassociation for whatever lackey got it, but i did request in the letter not be contacted.
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Congratulations! You didn't do it correctly so you'll likely get a call or something. I forgot to sign my second one (first got sent back because their address online was wrong) so they called me to confirm. I realize that you don't want contact, I didn't either. You may have to have it though but it will mean the end of all contact, so it will be hard but worth it. I felt the same as you. I had ridiculous anxiety. Now I have hardly any. I have peace. You will too, soon enough. Just do what you need to finalize this and feel free afterward.
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Changes & Clarifications on our belief. DOMINO EFFECT blamed for late coming into print
by TheWonderofYou inin the august broadcast bro splane explains this point deeper.. when the brothers are sitting together and joyfully speaking about clarification of jw belief, they often encounter and deal with that "domino-effect" when one scripture has effects on others.
so all changes are carefully considered before they come into print, one after the other but late.. lately he mentions the "godfathers" brother jaracz , barr as good examples of reading the bible progressivly, they were very progressive at there time.
what ever this could mean he did not explain it?.
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They want a pat on the back because the old guys were willing to change too? If they are truly "God's channel", aren't they just doing what they're supposed to do? How about the 8 million plus rank and file that then are forced to change? Should they get a pat on the back too, or just a guilt trip telling them to keep up with the "chariot"? Idiots, the whole lot.
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August JW Broadcasting in Under 2 Minutes LOYAL LOYAL ETC ETC
by Watchtower-Free inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfxkwe0881e .
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When shunning family is part of your vocabulary it's hard to claim to know loyalty. Got a kick out of that video, lol.
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Our secretly recorded disfellowshipping and 2 year anniversary since leaving on Watchtower Victims Memorial Day!!!
by Christian Gutierrez inhey guys it's been 2 years since leaving and this is how life has gone for us since then.
hope you guys have had a positive experience too!
cheers 😃.
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I love you guys and your videos but have to admit that the only time I run across you is during self-promotion. Sure would be nice to see you guys respond to the threads you start, to emails, etc., maybe even getting down in the trenches and helping one on one at times. I think I'm friends with you on Facebook, per your request, but you only show up about yourselves. Maybe that's not fair, but I've lost interest due to it. Best wishes though.
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Low Day For Me Today
by pale.emperor inhi guys.
it's been about 4 or 5 weeks since i was disfellowshipped.
so far it's been easy, i enjoyed being left alone, no one bothering me, no one telling me i need to do more, need to reach out, questioning why i didnt go on the ministry, and the fact that my ex-wifes family cant talk to me even if they wanted to.
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I bet you could have spent that time away from the meeting today getting to know some new friends that actually care about you instead of being mentally and emotionally tormented by a destructive cult and toxic family. I understand the pull, but I don't think that everyone can (maybe you can) live a life that they don't believe in and know is toxic just for others. I think that the pull at your head and heart while trying to fake something like that might drive you mad, and for what? So that you can get toxic people back and be beholden to a lifestyle that is JW even if you fade, because they now are to shun even those inactive that don't live up to JW standards? It is a game that you cannot win as I see it. I say this not to discourage you, but because I care. Maybe you don't need or want that right now, and I understand.
In less than a year I have more friends and people that care about me than I ever had while in. Yesterday I went to a birthday of a 4 year old little girl and had fun and got to know new people. Today I went to a baptism celebration (the event wasn't religious in the slightest, basically a barbecue with lots of people) for a little 7 month old girl and met family of the hosts who were the only people we knew, and barely, and made new friends. Heck, a guy from Colorado invited me out if I'm ever out that way.
Good people are out there that would like to be your friend. They don't have rules and regulations for you to uphold, and they don't want or need you to be entirely fake. The new life that my wife and I have is amazing. I want that for you and your little girl. I don't want her to be raised as a little JW drone. I don't want her friends and family to depend on the cult obedience. I don't want the relationship between you two to be influenced by toxic religion and people. I'd love to see you two ride off into the sunset and leave those people behind. I'd be happy to be a friend to you if you lived nearby. I'm sure others would to. We're here right now trying to be that in the ways that we can.
I'm sorry you're having a low day today. The journey does have some of those even for those of us that are out and happy with it and not trying to get back in for any reason. I just can't see how every day of being around the cult can't result similarly in a low day though. They really have no high to offer.
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Help Me Regain Contact With My Still In Family
by pale.emperor insituation is, i'll never return to the wt.
my family with never leave the wt.. depending on who you ask you'll get the following answers when you ask about me:.
my family: he's confused.
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Dude, you better hope you get her back, and then never let them cross paths again. Her behavior is sketchy as can be, and juck Fehovah's Witnesses for acting like that. Be strong man, and keep those two apart. She will absolutely poison your child against you.
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They Don't Have A Secret Elder's Book
by pale.emperor in"they don't have a secret elder's book" so said my mother.
"all of our publications are open to everyone.
we all have the same information and nothing is hidden in this religion.".
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I always thought it was strange that they had a secret pioneer book too. I could never understand why they wouldn't want all public ministers to be as encouraged and qualified as the next. If there was some magic book that helped people become more effective public ministers, why only give it to a select few? The hierarchies in the Borg are so obvious.
P.E., I'm sorry your mom is so deep into the dissonance. I'd like to say it was a rarity, but it's not. And JWs like to say that it is Satan that blinds the minds of people. Talk about the blind leading the blind.