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  Tips on how to raise money

  by Holden Caufield in

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  i need some ideas to raise money for my study research trip for west africa in cape coast ghana..

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  Provide some sort of value in exchange for the money.
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  Complaining over post dislikes / downvotes

  by Simon in

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  2. announcements

  let's be clear: people have the right to like or dislike what they want - that is why the option is there.

  as long as they are not doing it in a malicious way to retaliate or game the system, there is no policing the votes.

  if you get a down-vote, live with it.

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  First rule of "like" club.....you don't talk about "like" club. On another forum where people are concerned about their star rating, complaints will get you one starred faster than anything.
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  Need advice

  by Drwho in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i'm a middle aged man.

  i dated a jw lady for 3 months ., we never had sex, just made out , half naked , well everything except underwear .

  she has been a jw for 40 years ., was married to a jw but he committed adultery 13 years ago so they divorced .

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  She's into the cult of Jehovah's Witnesses. You're into the cult of her. You both need help.
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  Why THAT talk? Why NOW?

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in another thread there's a discussion about how the show must go on and meetings weren't even slowed down by the deaths or medical emergencies of ones in the audience.

  for instance, one young brother's unbelieving father was murdered locally.

  not long afterward he's assigned a part on an assembly about the resurrection or something.

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  Tameria, those are some awful stories. I'm so sorry you faced that.

  Stillin, what you said just goes to show that all they care about is the the talks are given. They just need a warm body that can stand and speak because the most important thing, as evidenced in the other thread I alluded to at the start of this, is that the show goes on.
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  Why THAT talk? Why NOW?

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in another thread there's a discussion about how the show must go on and meetings weren't even slowed down by the deaths or medical emergencies of ones in the audience.

  for instance, one young brother's unbelieving father was murdered locally.

  not long afterward he's assigned a part on an assembly about the resurrection or something.

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  Maybe the question then is why do those people go through with those talks that are given at random but that happen to fall at horrific times? I know that a big part of it is that most brothers can't say the word no. Still, I've been surprised that most, if not all, go through with those incredibly difficult talks.
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  Why THAT talk? Why NOW?

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in another thread there's a discussion about how the show must go on and meetings weren't even slowed down by the deaths or medical emergencies of ones in the audience.

  for instance, one young brother's unbelieving father was murdered locally.

  not long afterward he's assigned a part on an assembly about the resurrection or something.

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  In another thread there's a discussion about how the show must go on and meetings weren't even slowed down by the deaths or medical emergencies of ones in the audience. It got me to thinking though, how many times were brothers given parts that were on a subject matter that was soul crushing for them or their listeners?

  For instance, one young brother's unbelieving father was murdered locally. Not long afterward he's assigned a part on an assembly about the resurrection or something. Of course he got emotional and barely made it through. I've seen other elders get up and give talks about death after the loss of a loved one and barely make it through the tears to finish their talks. Why? Why give that guy that talk at that time? Is it to reinforce his beliefs and help him in some way? Is it to evoke an emotional response from the crowd that strengthens their faith as well?

  On the flip side you have brothers that really struggled in areas of life assigned talks on that area of life. My dad was not a good dad. He was very emotionally abusive. The elders knew about it because even I as a kid was called into meetings with elders to report on how things were going at home. Yet the next month they'd assign him a public talk on happy family life. WTF?! My mom, myself, and my siblings would sit there in shock listening to the total bullcrap coming out of his mouth. He would even embellish or make up scenarios that we supposedly had in our own happy little family and preach them from the stage to encourage others. My mom often got up and walked out. We kids weren't allowed that luxury. Were they giving him talks on that subject matter thinking that he needed to learn that material and apply it, or are they just that stupid? Did they just want to torment the family?

  I'm not expecting real answers here. It is hard to decisively know the motivation behind many things. I just find it fascinating how many times brothers were put in these horrible situations with their talks and other parts. Heck, as a teenager I had to give a talk from the YPA book on masturbation, as if I as a young male had never indulged myself. Why put a young me in that position? Man I hate those manipulative bastards.
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  Keep the meeting going! (even if somebody's dying)

  by TimeBandit in

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  2. friends

  this is a true story.

  it's about a sister named henriette venema.

  she was a very loyal jw.

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  TimeBandit, I'm so sorry to hear your story, and Flipper's and all of the others here. Jehovah's Witnesses manage to somehow strip the basic humanity out of people.

  I remember sitting in a KH when a brother was clearly having a heart attack. I was a kid, and it was frightening. He was helped out of the auditorium and I believe an ambulance came. Of course, the meeting went on.

  My mom had some mental issues at one point in time and would just sit and rock at the meetings and it was hard to watch, again I was a kid. I remember her disappearing into the library at times and elders would go back there with her. Eventually she was put into some institutions for periods of time. All the while us kids were totally in the dark without a clue as to why mommy wasn't mommy anymore. She was a shell. I've heard stories since as to a possible misdiagnosis and the wrong medication causing things, but I can't help but think that the cult had something to do with it all.
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  Necessary Family Business (NFB) is now acceptable according to the weekly WT Study

  by Quarterback in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during the last decade i've seen so many articles, and top speakers try to downplay that nfb policy.

  now, this weeks wt study mentions a positive experience of someone applying having, "contact and applying nfb with a df relative".

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  Oh, and I just noticed that it didn't say that necessary family business was okay, it said that ABSOLUTELY necessary family business was okay, as in a last resort, when there's no other choice.
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  Necessary Family Business (NFB) is now acceptable according to the weekly WT Study

  by Quarterback in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during the last decade i've seen so many articles, and top speakers try to downplay that nfb policy.

  now, this weeks wt study mentions a positive experience of someone applying having, "contact and applying nfb with a df relative".

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  LaurenM caught that point about being "FORCED to beg Jehovah for help and forgiveness", and I did too. So much for free will, eh? I thought Jehovah never coerced anyone to serve him.

  Let's review.........it's a CULT!
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  Necessary Family Business (NFB) is now acceptable according to the weekly WT Study

  by Quarterback in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during the last decade i've seen so many articles, and top speakers try to downplay that nfb policy.

  now, this weeks wt study mentions a positive experience of someone applying having, "contact and applying nfb with a df relative".

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  millie210 - Who decides what is "necessary" family business?

  Why, Jehovah's Witnesses, of course. Those bastards get to decide everything, the hallmark of any narcissists. The world is their playground and we're just living in it. If they need something, you bet they'll contact their ex-JW relatives. Need money? NFB Sick and need someone to care for you? NFB Let's face it though, it's a one way street. They WANT to see us flounder. The worse any one of us does in the "world", the more it solidifies their narrow minded thinking. They're rooting for us to lose, thinking that will make us come back. They want us to suffer, thinking that will make us come back.

  I love how they always find the one example where things worked out for them and use it in their publications, so they too can have the best outcome. Really? Oh, you mean like my dad dying in April, having shunned me for the last year of his life? That was the best outcome? I hate that organization so much. They are sickening.

  NFB means nothing more than "whatever suits the JW in the family's needs or wants, so long as it isn't in any way helpful or loving toward the ex-JW".