Wannahelp, I agree with you about getting hard evidence that the WTBTS and it's 10 year involvement with the United Nations. They are already denying it and blaming it on "apostates". This is really proof that the WT leaders must not believe in thier hearts that they are really God's channel, for if they did, they would fear that they are going to answer to him in the same way they teach that all those unrepentant lyers will answer to him.
Does anyone out there know of any other CO's who have implied that the UN/WTBTS is just a rumor?
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WT/UN/Self-fulfilled Prophecy?
by ARoarer ini was wondering if anyone has been wondering what i have been wondering.
it seems to me the wt likes to read the bible and then pick out scriptures to make self-fulfill.
if they for the last 10 years have been a member of the un as an ngo to secretly recieve the benefits of that position, they are also using the current events to further their image as the "true" religion.
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WT/UN/Self-fulfilled Prophecy?
by ARoarer ini was wondering if anyone has been wondering what i have been wondering.
it seems to me the wt likes to read the bible and then pick out scriptures to make self-fulfill.
if they for the last 10 years have been a member of the un as an ngo to secretly recieve the benefits of that position, they are also using the current events to further their image as the "true" religion.
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I was wondering if anyone has been wondering what I have been wondering. It seems to me the WT likes to read the Bible and then pick out scriptures to make self-fulfill. If they for the last 10 years have been a member of the UN as an NGO to secretly recieve the benefits of that position, they are also using the current events to further their image as the "true" religion. Now after riding on the back of the scarlet colored beast for 10 years, as the rest of "Babylon" they have to suddenly "jump of" so that they can go back to being persecuted by the "Beast". Watchtower would love for the UN to "turn on them" so they could continue to mislead the members. What is the point in insighting the UN into turning it's attention on the WT. Right now the UN views it as just another organization with wierd ideas. Watchtower would love for "apostates" to side with the UN in investigating and persecuting them. They thrive on this and use it to recruit. If the UN investigates them and turns on them viewing them as a destructive religion preaching death to the rest of mankind the way the Taliban preaches, then the Watchtower gets to fulfill their own Biblical false predictions. They are using the times today to their advantage. Otherwise they never would have become a member of the United Nations NGO. What really impresses me is that they give the R&F more reason to wish "apostates" dead. I have already, myself, received 2 letters of such from people who had been my closest friends. I was told that my leaving would prove "dangerous" to me and my family. And that "unfortunately we are not living back in Moses day when we would have been put to death'.... Basically the WT has the same thinking of the Taliban, but who knows how many deranged JW's there are that would think they were pleasing the WT gods in Brooklyn by harming those who they percieve to be "apostates". The WTS like the Taliban uses religion to pervert and fulfill thier own twisted beliefs. Does anyone else feel this way
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Family About to Disown Me
by Moridin inwell i finally got the guts to tell my mother that i had enlisted in the army.
she didn't say a whole lot to me, but she did tell my sister she was calling the elders and that when i was df'd she would have nothing to do with me.
i can't say that it suprises me too much, but i was hoping for more of an adult reaction.
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Moridin, your mother must realize that your joining the military is an act of love for humanity. In this situation with the US at war, you are joining the governmental authority spoken about in Romans. It is God's minister of vengeance against those committing wrong, criminal acts. To see the way the people over there ruled by the Teleban are harming thier own people because of their evil treatment and low regard for human life, they will receive justice from the superior authorities that God has in thier relative positions for the good. This is in the book of Romans I forget the exact scripture, and can't look it up right now. The Bible also says greater love than this hath no man than to give his life in behalf of his friends. These former "friends" enjoy protection, and their children enjoy protection because of men like you. This is the homeland, just like your house is your home and an evil murderer trying to come in and murder your family, would have to be stopped. God bless you and keep you safe and strong.
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The Painting-Do You See It?
by messenger inhow do you feel after seeing the truth about the truth"?
perhaps the following illustration posted on wol might help you to define your thinking.
a brother and his wife were visiting the holocaust museum, and from a little distance, they spotted a nazi-era painting hanging at the end of a hallway.
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Elders are not cruel until you question and stand up for what your conscience believes to be wrong when it comes to the WT brand of loyalty. That is when the seemingly "not all elders are cruel, and not all congregations harbor pedophiles." Every elder is expected,even ordered by headquarters to bring out the cruelness of WT policy, regardless of personal feelings. Yes unless they resign that kind of loyalty to WT, all elders inevitably will act with cruelty. I and my family have been made well aware of this fact by those whom we loved, and thought loved us. The bottom line is that all elders who want to stay elders will be expected to carry out cruel acts in the name of their false god Watchtower.
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Interesting point about the WT-UN thing
by comment init's easy to document that there have been dozens of derogatory statements about the un in watchtower publications in the years since the society gained ngo status.. we already know that the brothers were not informed about this status.
and in the early 1990's, it would have been considerably harder for the brothers to find out.
why would any of them even think to visit or phone the un and ask, "is the watchtower society in any way associated with your organization?".
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I remember the years of being a devout JW not contributing to UNICEF because it was part of the "Beast". I feel terrible about this now. I keep asking myself over and over again, why was this not seen be me before? I hope the UN gets the graphic pictures the WTS had our children grown up on. The ones that so many had nightmares over.
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I called Brooklyn
by mommy inwell the other thread has gotten long concerning the association of te wtbts and the un so i started this one here.
i just got off the phone with a man in patterson concerning this issue and i will post most of convo here.. first of all if you do call beware they play kingdom melodies when you are on hold!.
ok a man answers the phone giving me his first name.
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Hi Wendy, you are a gutsy gal. I think the guy at the service desk didn't know what hit him. I wonder if the geezers in the governing potty really care if this becomes a big issue. They will still deny it and they are associated histerically, and the R&F witlesses will except the info because they want to believe anything that is fed to them. Does anyone know if the UN is being given copies of books and literature that depicts the many artists rendering of the UN according the the WT??? I don't think they would like it being called the Disgusting Thing and all the other names WT has given to it.
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I GOT TWO NEW RETURN VISITS TODAY!!
by Ranchette ini do have two new return visits but they are not from field service.. my womens club went to a local nursing home today.
we brought the elderly gifts, we sang songs with them, and we brought our pets, and listened to them.
they were so happy to see us and share some of their lifes experiences with us.. it was different to go to a nursing home with no ulterior motives like pushing jw literature.. it felt right to just give them what they wanted most.
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Ranchette, What a wonderful way to minister to those in need. You gave of yourself. Your a sweetheart.
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Update page on UN and other secret stuff
by Dogpatch init has been a task to sift through all the stuff on the united nations stuff, but i have managed to find a page with most of the recent stuff that can be bookmarked if you want to direct a jw or someone else to it:.
http://thetruthhurts.freeservers.com/.
it is also linked from my main page at http://www.freeminds.org as secret governing body documents.
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Maybe the Scarlet Covered Beast will turn on the Taliban, and Jehovah's Witnesses. After all, they say all "false religion"
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Witless Dreamers...
by Jigrigger inthe witless dream machine is alive and well!!!.
go to this link: http://www.witnessesonline.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/witnessesonline/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=6&t=000055.
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I read some of the posts and it was kind of sickening hearing them talk about burying the bodies in one breath and doing such trivial things like, building a real cool bike, getting to know who I really am, climbing the tallest mountain, finding out where to get intructions on what to do next, avoiding the second death, Ugh!! Did we sound like that at one time. I guess that is why we are out. We all must have had too much love in us to stay with such a cold blooded Taliban-like religion. I really liked the one about finding my friends, after they bury everyone. Sick!
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RE: "Special Meeting"
by Quandary ini'm very surprised that my family has not heard about this "special meeting".
we are a 3rd generation jw family, dad is the po, mom has been a reg pio for 25 yrs, brother is a bethelite.
can anyone tell me the date of this supposed "special meeting" and if there is a chicagoland location.. thanks
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I have a friend who is attending says she will be staying at the Mariott secretly because the Society has banned that hotel from it's members without reprisals. She will wear her badge after she leaves the hotel. She doesn't want to be turned in or as she say "I don't want them to come after me". This doesn't sound like a Christian religion to me. More like a secret society of a cult.