Posts by ARoarer

i received a phone call today from ray frederiks from wor radio, and he asked me if i would do a call in on the air tommorrow morning regarding the article in newsday and the comments i made about the judicial committees and the watchtowers stance on sexual abuse.

i can't find the article online.

does anyone have a copy if there is an article.

ARoarer

I found the article.
http://www.newsday.com/mynews/nywit0828698508

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Newsday and Wor Radio

by ARoarer in

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i received a phone call today from ray frederiks from wor radio, and he asked me if i would do a call in on the air tommorrow morning regarding the article in newsday and the comments i made about the judicial committees and the watchtowers stance on sexual abuse.

i can't find the article online.

does anyone have a copy if there is an article.

ARoarer

Hey Ash, I just finished viewing the bear get kicked in the balls...:)

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Newsday and Wor Radio

by ARoarer in

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i received a phone call today from ray frederiks from wor radio, and he asked me if i would do a call in on the air tommorrow morning regarding the article in newsday and the comments i made about the judicial committees and the watchtowers stance on sexual abuse.

i can't find the article online.

does anyone have a copy if there is an article.

ARoarer

I received a phone call today from Ray Frederiks from WOR Radio, and he asked me if I would do a call in on the air tommorrow morning regarding the article in Newsday and the comments I made about the Judicial Committees and the Watchtowers stance on sexual abuse. I can't find the article online. Does anyone have a copy if there is an article. Also, the Associated Press called today and they are putting an article out by Friday.

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Pedophile's Nephew made P.O./Victims face DF

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if you are an elder and your uncle is a pedophile who molests your mother and your sister, and a lot of other little girls in the surrounding congregations, and even your own cousins'children who happen to be the pedophile's grandchildren, and you and your father, also an elder, the pedophiles' brother-in-law, and you all are "one big happy family" in the same congregation together, the watchtower society will make you the po if you protect uncle pedophile and discredit the victims.

sound confusing?

well, in other words, the protecting family elder of the pedophile is being "rewarded" for covering for his pedophile uncle, and discrediting his family who spoke out.

ARoarer

SS, Yes I wish I could get the cops in on it. But all the victims that I know of are now grown, and the cops were already aware when we criminally and civily litigated with the pedophile grandfather.

Ashi, I am checking my mail now. I haven't been online all day. I decided to work in the garden to get my mind of the WT garbage.

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Pedophile's Nephew made P.O./Victims face DF

by ARoarer in

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if you are an elder and your uncle is a pedophile who molests your mother and your sister, and a lot of other little girls in the surrounding congregations, and even your own cousins'children who happen to be the pedophile's grandchildren, and you and your father, also an elder, the pedophiles' brother-in-law, and you all are "one big happy family" in the same congregation together, the watchtower society will make you the po if you protect uncle pedophile and discredit the victims.

sound confusing?

well, in other words, the protecting family elder of the pedophile is being "rewarded" for covering for his pedophile uncle, and discrediting his family who spoke out.

ARoarer

If you are an elder and your uncle is a pedophile who molests your mother and your sister, and a lot of other little girls in the surrounding congregations, and even your own cousins'children who happen to be the pedophile's grandchildren, and you and your father, also an elder, the pedophiles' brother-in-law, and you all are "one big happy family" in the same congregation together, the Watchtower Society will make you the PO if you protect Uncle Pedophile and discredit the victims. SOUND CONFUSING? Well, in other words, the protecting family elder of the pedophile is being "rewarded" for covering for his pedophile uncle, and discrediting his family who spoke out. That's Watchtower twisted justice. Boot the victims, make the supporters of the perverts Presiding Overseers. Result: Not only does the WT Society cover up sexual molestation, but it breeds incestuous congregations through nepatism.

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OPRAH show molestation!!!

by plmkrzy in

i turned on oprah tonight.

i always watch the late show usually tues and thur.. tonight is the first of a series on molestation.

the trial of a molester who was convicted and got 14 years for molesting a 4 year old was the opening of tonights show.

ARoarer

plmkrzy
I saw the Oprah show. It was excellent. The show she talked about, "Close to Home" is supposed to air on the Discovery Channel.

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OUR LAWYER'S LETTER TO WATCHTOWER & THERE R...

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when an elder called us to "invite" us to the kh to meet with them to question us regarding accusations of apostasy, while another elder sneakily sat on another line as a "second witness", we, after not being active for several years, having no contact with anyone in the congregation, we felt their phone call was harrassing.

we called our lawyers who drew up a letter that say:.

watchtower bibel & tract society.

ARoarer

LoneWolfe, your thoughts are exactly what we have been going over as options in this situation. Our attorneys called and want us to meet with them tomorrow afternoon to discuss various options. They saw first hand the tactics and corruption of the elders taking direction from the Legal Dept when not being truthful on the witness stand. I have often wanted to get the civil liberties people involved with this. There is also another aspect and that is the fact that we are being religiously persecuted for following our conscience and not going along with Watchtower policies on different matters. There is also the issue of the psychological damage this is placing on our family. My daughter is now grown past a teen and is actually 26. For her stand, she is also being shunned by all who were once her closest friends, because she no longer wants to be in that Kingdom Hall. Her husband is a Witness son of one of the elders in the congregation we were associated with. Not one elder will even look at her or talk to her if she is at her own in-law's home. That is another whole issue we are dealing with. It bogles my mind that they could treat her and her family this way and freely associate with, instead with the Pedophile who caused these problems. It defies logic.

Waiting thankyou for some of your insight. We want to discuss these issues with our attorneys. I'll keep you informed.
Below is another response from WT in response to the following letter from the attorney:

Dear Mr. -----
I received your letter of April 19, 2002, and have forwarded it to my clients. Initially, please state your basis for denial of legal councel at this judicial hearing.
Second, my clients advise that they are entitled to knowa who will sit on the judicial committee. Please provide me with the bnames of the Elders by return facsimile.
Third, pleaase advise what evidence and witnesses will be presented at the hearing. Certainly the -------- are entitiled to this information prior to the May 6th date.
Lastly, the --------are aware of the May 6th date and request that the hearing proceed on this date.

Very truly yours,
Our Attorneys

In response they wrote;

Dear -- ---------
I recieved your fax letter of April 29, 2002, and appreciate your confirming that you have let your clients, ------------------------know about the May 6th , 2002 judicial committee hearing.
You aask why leagal counsel is not permitted ata the judicial committee proceeding. Be assured that the purpose of the judicial committee proceeding is spiritual in nature, not legal. This is not an advearsarial secular court proceeding. The judicial committee would like to try and help ------------ if they have sincere doubts.
As for the composition of the judicial committee, please assure ------------ that there is not need for them to be anxious or concerned about which elders will serve on their judicial committee. The body of elders has the best interests of the congregation in mind when selecting the elders who will serve on a judicial committee. Nevertheless, if ------------ believe that a specific elder on the body of elders should not serve on their judicial committee ecause they believe he connot be fair and impartial, pleaase let me know immediately and include the specific reason for their belief. The body of elders will consider their feelings and decide whethr or not to select a different elder for the committee.
As for the evidence and witnesses that will be presented, this information is not provided in advance of the hearing. But if the testimony of others is used, ------------ will have the opportunity to face their accusers and examine any other evidence presented at the hearing.
Sincerely
The Asshole from WT who wrote this

My question is if this is of a "spiritual nature" not a legal one why do they use legal rhetoric, such as witnesses, and accusers, testimony, evidence......

This, if it where not so pathetic, and evil is almost laughable how they are really taken in with themselves and their game of head trips of their "victims"
I am to aggravated to type right now.