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  Whats up?

  by Stefanie in

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  i have been away some for that last couple of days being real busy.

  so whats up everybody?

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  The place wasn't the same without out you Stefanie.

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  If The Bible Is Truly The Word Of God...

  by exjdub in

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  why would he leave so many loose ends?

  believe me, despite some of my comments about religion and my feelings about the bible, i do examine myself and my thinking process all of the time.

  i really do think deeply about my life and the lives of my family, and i really try to examine how i feel.

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  Why would he leave so many loose ends?

  Believe me, despite some of my comments about religion and my feelings about the Bible, I do examine myself and my thinking process all of the time. I really do think deeply about my life and the lives of my family, and I really try to examine how I feel. The problem is, my trust was violated..many times. I feel, like most of you, that I have been spiritually raped. That has cause me to realize and conclude that the WTS does not have the Truth.

  Because of the violation, I examine everything now to see if it holds water and I have a real hard time now accepting the Bible as the Word of God. I have a hard time accepting Christianity (or any religion)as anything other than a way to control people. Now I know some of you who still believe in Christianity would say that it is a matter of faith. I could accept that if there weren't so many holes that I see.

  1. If the Bible is really the word of God, why would he allow manuscripts etc. to be destroyed or lost? when you have so many translations of the same book, many which contradict each other, wouldn't it be critical to have those preserved by the Almighty?
  2. If God's name is so important, why would he allow the pronunciation to be lost?
  3. How can a book be inspired by God, and yet, be so vague in so many areas...especially in connection with the afterlife, or hope for the dead? When I read of those things, I see the views of the men who wrote. God didn't inspire them to see what the afterlife would REALLY be like.
  4. If prophecy is there to help people see the "sign" of the time of the end, why is it so confusing and there is no clear interpretation? And how would you ever be able to verify a true prophet?

  To have faith you have to have a solid foundation. I just don't see it. I think that some of the problem is that I am truly happy now, but I am trying not to close my mind to personal growth.

  Well, those are just a few questions that roll around in my head and that keep the loose screws company. Sometimes when I think too much about it my head feels like a big melon and I just shut down. Too much processing. Am I crazy? I think what got me thinking is that I listened to Little Toe's DA talk yesterday. He spoke of having a profound epiphany about Jesus 6 months prior to his leaving the WTS. He described it as a very deep feeling about his relationship with Jesus. Anyway...Your thoughts (if you don't think I am a nut...well even if you do think I am a nut)?
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  I am finally ready to deal with my father...

  by Aztec in

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  he's pushed me to my last nerve!.

  i need any proof that i can verify that 1) the last days are not here!

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  However, your parents have bailed you out over this past year and assumed many of your responsibilities.

  I would almost think that an occasional preaching session has been earned by them for what they have done for you and your son.

  Thank you Uzzah...That's what I get for commenting without all of the facts. That would certainly alter what I said some, and I agree with you...an occasional preaching session would be a fair trade off perhaps. Thank you for the clarification. Now if you will excuse me, I am going to try and remove my foot from my mouth

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  Eric Idle's FCC Song

  by PopeOfEruke in

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  has anybody downloaded this great song?

  its available for free from the monty python website: www.pythonline.com.

  the pope .

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  exjdub

  Now THAT was a classic. Thanks for the link Pope, I appreciate it.

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  I'm so glad!!!!

  by Ciara in

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  a week ago my father-in-law had a serious heart attack.

  he's been wonderful to me since my jw parents disowned me.

  he went into the hospital and had triple bypass surgery to correct the blockages, but first they had to cauterize a bleeding ulcer in his stomach.

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  That's great news Ciara! Please give our regards and best get well wishes to your Father-In-Law.

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  This Is How They Do it . . .

  by Corvin in

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  2. bible

  *** w86 3/15 pp.

  19-20 allow no place for the devil!

  14 finally, we might consider what the society has published in the past on chronology.

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  Therefore, resolve in your heart that you will never even touch the poison that apostates want you to sip.

  Ohhh! Please don't make me sip, glugglugglugglugglugglugglugglug...please stop...glugglugglugglugglugglugglugglug...hey wait a minute, this tastes good, and it is the truth about the Troof! Give me more (repeatedly pounding mug on the table).

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  The Joy Of Sex..

  by Englishman in

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  ..is notably absent amongst middle-aged dubs.. maybe the joy of sex was forbidden to them?.

  take a peek at the nov 1964 wt study: >>the male sex organs and the female sex organs were to cooperate in fulfilling this god-given command.

  thus the sex organs are not playthings to have a lot of fun with, for such fun does not serve the divine purpose.

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  Hence no Christian girl should make herself like a public towel on which any man can wipe his hands by means of immorality. What self-respecting man who believes in health and hygiene would want to wipe his hand on a dirty public towel by marrying a girl who makes a harlot of herself, a prostitute? Girls, do not make yourselves a dirty towel for public use, available to the dirty hands of any whoremonger, any symbolic "dog."<<

  Hmmmmmmmm...Nothing in here about a self-respecting woman not wanting to wipe her hands on a dirty public towel by marrying a man who makes use of himself like a pimp and a whoremonger. I guess it's OK! Ya gotta love the Watchtower!

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  I am finally ready to deal with my father...

  by Aztec in

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  he's pushed me to my last nerve!.

  i need any proof that i can verify that 1) the last days are not here!

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  Aztec,

  I thought what Steve Lowry said was excellent:

  what you really want to do is modify his behavior. Practically anyone's behavior can be modified.

  Your father is really overstepping his boundaries (most JW's do, especially when the Society tells them it is their "responsibility to "save" their grandchildren's lives). If your father does not respect your boundaries, especially if he repeatedly oversteps them after you have gently reminded him, then you need to make it clear that he will not see his grandchildren until it stops. At the very least, not without you being present. This may sound drastic or cruel, but you won't have to do this for long. He will come around. By allowing your father to overstep his boundaries without repercussions, it negates your authority as a parent. Is that the message that you want to send to your children? You are ultimately responsible for your children. If you do not want them in a mind screwing cult, then you need to be proactive.

  If you really don't want to destroy your father's faith, but just want to have him stop "witnessing" to you and your children, than don't undermine his faith with proof that his faith is false. Setting the boundaries accomplishes the goal of having him keep his faith AND his boundaries. My 2 cents.

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  Have others given up trying to communicate their feelings?

  by Celtic in

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  i don't think i'll be listened to any more, my story is not worth telling, it is too complex, it causes me too much sadness to try to relate it, too much shame and too much internal pain.

  am i the only one that feels that they have given up trying to communicate their feelings here anymore?

  like my personality is a sham, i do my best to cope, to be happy, to be this cantankerous old sod that tries to make out to everyone i'm doing well, but ..... anyone?

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  You grieve deeply, love passionately. Don't be surprised if the faint of heart run for cover. If you were a flower, you would be a six-foot blazing orange orchid, rare indeed.

  Celtic,

  What Gnat said so beautifully is what I have seen over and over again in the short time that I have been here. You express yourself through beautiful pictures and sensitive thread topics.

  You know how some of us guys have to put on a bit of an act sometimes, we have to set our faces into our coping scowl, but underneath, we're too well aware of just how soft we are? Well.

  You said that in your recent topic about men crying over music and movies. And therin lies the clue. You, and many of us here, are soft inside, regardless of what we show. But it is because of that softness that you are able to help others. Your sensitivity, and the deep emotional well that you are, allows you to be sensitive to others.

  In a recent chat session with you I learned that you lost everything when you left the organization. You were about as low as human being can get and all appeared lost. You also said that this board saved your life. You are part of that "life saving work" (and it ain't the preaching work...at least not for the JW's) process for others, even as you continue to go through such deep pain yourself. The ones who are sensitive are also the ones that are sensitve to other's needs and who help so much here...it has sure helped me. You, Celtic, are part of that process. So...thank you for being you Celtic, you are indeed a six-foot blazing orchid. And here is a big hug (((((Celtic))))) from a man who...never...cries...(trying to clear lump in throat...keyboard keys are getting blurry) oh all right Celtic! I admit it! I do cry...

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  JW at my work Part 2

  by Beans in

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  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/64911/1.ashx

  so we had our quartley safety meeting last week at work and as soon as i walk in this jw is right up to me all excited telling me about what is going on in his life.

  i really approached this lightly to inform this person as he seemed to have an open mind.

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  Nice work Beans...you are a sly one aren't you? You sure know when to play the cards!

  there was a 1/2 hour talk on facial gestures

  who the...what the...what in the world are they up to now? Was this counsel in the Ministry School or really an entire talk on facial gestures? If it was an entire talk I think they really are getting desperate.

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