"Look at this way.......a cow/pig/fish/chicken is in the natural food chain. A Mountain Lion, fox, coyote, to name a few all hunt and eat these animals. They for the most part kill quickly."
It is true that the animals you mention hunt and eat other animals. The difference is that they have the digestion and stomach acids to digest the meat and live almost exclusively on it, and they also generally cull the weak and old animals of the herd. This serves to strengthen the herd, while also at the same time keeping control on explosive growth that would become a problem. Humankind does not eat meat for the same reasons as carnivores. We are Omnivores and we have a choice to eat animals or not, albeit a difficult one, but a choice nonetheless. Hence the dilemma for me.
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Vegetarianism Suggestions?
by exjdub inmy wife and i are having trouble getting past the way animals are treated for our food supply and also the unhealthy things that are introduced into our food supply.
we have also discussed the fact that if our meat, chicken, pork, and turkey was not packaged in little vacuum packed trays where we could exercise a large amount of cognitive dissonance, we would not be able to eat animals.
i was hoping someone would have some favorite suggestions for books and resources to begin the journey toward vegetarianism.
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Vegetarianism Suggestions?
by exjdub inmy wife and i are having trouble getting past the way animals are treated for our food supply and also the unhealthy things that are introduced into our food supply.
we have also discussed the fact that if our meat, chicken, pork, and turkey was not packaged in little vacuum packed trays where we could exercise a large amount of cognitive dissonance, we would not be able to eat animals.
i was hoping someone would have some favorite suggestions for books and resources to begin the journey toward vegetarianism.
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Tik,
You might want to consider eliminating vegetables from your diet, if you have a moral dilemma, and going all meat...but you might shorten your life a bit if you do.
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Vegetarianism Suggestions?
by exjdub inmy wife and i are having trouble getting past the way animals are treated for our food supply and also the unhealthy things that are introduced into our food supply.
we have also discussed the fact that if our meat, chicken, pork, and turkey was not packaged in little vacuum packed trays where we could exercise a large amount of cognitive dissonance, we would not be able to eat animals.
i was hoping someone would have some favorite suggestions for books and resources to begin the journey toward vegetarianism.
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Amha·’aret...I hate to say it but I like a good steak too, but I think a lot of that is conditioning and I believe I can get beyond it. To say I would never have a steak, though, would probably be unrealistic. The good news for the cows is that if I have a steak once in a blue moon it still means I have reduced my intake dramatically and have improved my health.
Mandette: We do try to buy locally...but it still does not get us beyond the fact that we are eating something that was alive and was killed solely for us to eat. I was able to go vegetarian for 3 months a couple of years ago, however I am on the road a lot for business and had difficulty maintaining it. That will still be a challenge.
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Vegetarianism Suggestions?
by exjdub inmy wife and i are having trouble getting past the way animals are treated for our food supply and also the unhealthy things that are introduced into our food supply.
we have also discussed the fact that if our meat, chicken, pork, and turkey was not packaged in little vacuum packed trays where we could exercise a large amount of cognitive dissonance, we would not be able to eat animals.
i was hoping someone would have some favorite suggestions for books and resources to begin the journey toward vegetarianism.
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My wife and I are having trouble getting past the way animals are treated for our food supply and also the unhealthy things that are introduced into our food supply. We have also discussed the fact that if our meat, chicken, pork, and turkey was not packaged in little vacuum packed trays where we could exercise a large amount of cognitive dissonance, we would not be able to eat animals.
I was hoping someone would have some favorite suggestions for books and resources to begin the journey toward vegetarianism. I don't believe I am ready for vegan just yet, but I am open to information. Every time I begin to research the subject it gets a bit overwhelming with all of the information that is available and it is difficult to differentiate the good information from the useless without burning huge blocks of time. If anyone has a favorite book(s) or websites that will address the challenges and the ins and outs of vegetarianism, I would appreciate the help. Thanks.
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Make Your Prediction:The Next President---- McCain or Obama???
by minimus intuesday night, it will be 100% obama.. who do you think??
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Oh...and Obama will win by landslide!
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Make Your Prediction:The Next President---- McCain or Obama???
by minimus intuesday night, it will be 100% obama.. who do you think??
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JG: "Oh yeah and go proposition 8."
Junction Guy...why would you vote against a lifestyle that you pursued at one time? You completely puzzle me.
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Any "Born Again" Christians here?
by sacolton inwould like to see how many have accepted jesus christ as the only way, truth and life..
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"So, I have to ask...is anyone who is not "born again" uable to find truth or life?" And I would add to this question, is anyone who is not "Christian" able to find truth or life?
The deafening silence to this question is what makes Christianity so hypocritical and dishonest...
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Skeeter 1: "Is a true flat tax fair?
The gasoline excise tax is a flat tax. Every gallon has a flat tax.
Guess what? The gas tax is the most unfair to the poor and most fair to the rich."
Skeeter,
I read your posts to some of these threads and usually just shake my head in wonderment at some of the ignorant things you say, but this one tops the cake. The gasoline excise tax has nothing in common with flat tax. A flat tax is usually spoken of in reference to income tax and seeks to tax a PERCENTAGE OF WHAT YOU MAKE. This means that if you make less money, you are taxed less, but you are still taxed at that same percentage as everyone else. This makes taxation fair, rather than allowing the rich to jump through tax law loopholes to pay a much lower percentage of their income. Ignorance does not have to turn into stupidity if you choose to educate yourself. Please don't attempt to defend your statement as it is glaringly deficient. Try picking up a book once in a while, or try listening to something other than Sean Hannity or his ilk...I have heard that if you turn off the radio or TV when Hannity comes on you automatically restore brain cells.
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Interesting that 'Ol Burn The Ships has returned after some crippling weeks clinging to the last vestiges of the McSame presidential bid. As it turns out BTS, it looks like "Joe The Plumber" was a plant by the McSame crew. You didn't think that McCrabby could come up with that debate stunt all by himself did you? There are also rumblings that Joe The Plumber is related to one of the Keating 5 crew. I am trying to get this verified, but if this is true it will be another hilarious development with the McCain train that is falling off of the tracks. exjdub
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"Integral Institute" an interesting site
by frankiespeakin ini guess burn's nde thread got me doing a little research to day and i came across this site:.
http://www.integralinstitute.org/.
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Thanks for the link Frankie...I am going to miss your topics. You were always presenting things that stopped and made me think and challenged my thinking. I still remember your hallucinogenic threads.
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ps: are you moving to any other message boards?