Good point Sirona! roflmao! You are just making sure that you are aware of what the Wiccans are up to right? That way you can let everyone for their own good.
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Elder Explains NGO Issue...Now It Is Clear!
by exjdub inquite a while ago an older sister stopped by my door, and stupid me, i let her know my life story in a nutshell.
faded for 7 years, former ministerial servant, blah blah blah.
i think the reason i did it is that she reminded me of my mom and she caught me at a weak moment.
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Elder Explains NGO Issue...Now It Is Clear!
by exjdub inquite a while ago an older sister stopped by my door, and stupid me, i let her know my life story in a nutshell.
faded for 7 years, former ministerial servant, blah blah blah.
i think the reason i did it is that she reminded me of my mom and she caught me at a weak moment.
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Shamus:
The elder is not the sharpest tack in the desk, but he has always been nice to me and respectful, which is more than I can say for most of the dubs.
Gopher:
I too am glad that I don't have to explain the unexplainable. It was always very awkward.
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Elder Explains NGO Issue...Now It Is Clear!
by exjdub inquite a while ago an older sister stopped by my door, and stupid me, i let her know my life story in a nutshell.
faded for 7 years, former ministerial servant, blah blah blah.
i think the reason i did it is that she reminded me of my mom and she caught me at a weak moment.
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exjdub
That's funny that you would say that Leolaia, I had the same thought that you mentioned, that she understood the feelings and the frustration, but not necessarily agreed with what I was saying. Still, you never know what comes of it I guess.
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Elder Explains NGO Issue...Now It Is Clear!
by exjdub inquite a while ago an older sister stopped by my door, and stupid me, i let her know my life story in a nutshell.
faded for 7 years, former ministerial servant, blah blah blah.
i think the reason i did it is that she reminded me of my mom and she caught me at a weak moment.
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exjdub
Nope!
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Elder Explains NGO Issue...Now It Is Clear!
by exjdub inquite a while ago an older sister stopped by my door, and stupid me, i let her know my life story in a nutshell.
faded for 7 years, former ministerial servant, blah blah blah.
i think the reason i did it is that she reminded me of my mom and she caught me at a weak moment.
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exjdub
Quite a while ago an older sister stopped by my door, and stupid me, I let her know my life story in a nutshell. faded for 7 years, former ministerial servant, blah blah blah. I think the reason I did it is that she reminded me of my mom and she caught me at a weak moment. What a mistake! I am still kicking myself over that stupidity because I am in an area far away from where I faded from and I had anonymity. By the way, let this be a warning to anyone else that has faded and has the urge to talk to a JW, I have now been introduced to every elder and Ministerial servant in the local congregation and I have now become someone's "project" Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggghhhhhhh!!!!!
Anyway...
Fast forward to a the visit I received from an elder and his wife during Saturday field service. Coincidentally... I happened to have a copy of the UN NGO information available that I had recently recieved, courtesy of the fine people on this board. I debated whether or not to bring it up, knowing that I was about to tread on dangerous ground, but finally decided to bring it up and voice my deep concern. After a brief uncomfortable silence on his part, the elder finally admitted that he was aware of the NGO issue. I asked him if it bothered him at all. He said: "Not at all". I repeated in a shocked and very dismayed tone: "This does not bother you at all, how could it not???????" He again repeated that it did not because he "trusted that the Society would not be involved unless they had a good reason." I was flabergasted and said that a library card was not a good enough reason for me after being taught that we were supposed to not be "part of the nations" and that the UN was the wild beast. As an afterthought I also added that this also really offended me because I could not even play basketball in a YMCA when I was a kid because of the religious affiliation and that at the very least it was extremely hypocritical on the part of the Org.
Interestingly, I could see out of the corner of my eye that the elder's wife was nodding her head in understanding at each point I made. So then he explains that it was necesarry for the Society to be an NGO so that they "could be on the inside when the cry of peace and security happened". I don't know why, or how it happened, but for once I was quick on my feet and I said: "But that doesn't make sense. The Society has made it clear that the cry for peace and security is to be so clear and evident that the whole world will know that it has been declared, so why would the Society need to be on the inside if it is to be that clear???????????? Silence...more silence...mouth opens...shuts..."well we have people waiting in the car for us, gotta go, nice to see you again, the yard looks really good", blargety blargety blarg, blah blah blah.
I feel relieved now because now I know that the Org had a very good reason to be an NGO. They are looking out for everyone so they can hear the cry of peace and security first and then let everyone else know that it is the real deal. I wish you had all been honest and told me that at the outset. I think it would have altered my feelings on the matter. By the way, I don't think I can post here anymore...I am on the way to the meeting tomorrow night...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! God, I want to hurl. Can you believe that crap? The good part about it is that I don't think I am anyones project anymore.
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what do you miss most about being in the truth!?!?!
by dh inc'mon now, there has to be something... the green carpet or the hard seats?
barn dances?
large social gatherings?
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Too funny dh! Thank you for reminding me of what took 7 years to bury and forget. Now I feel like curling up in a ball and sucking my thumb after that trip down JW memories. lol!
the green carpet
Ahh! The universal color scheme by the "brothers". It usually came with orange in the mix there somewhere. It was like a time warp of 60's fashion every time you stepped into the kingdom hall.
To be honest to the thread...I searched and searched my memory to find one good thing. I guess it's not that good things didn't happen, or that I did not experience nice things, it's just that bad feelings and negative things were so intertwined with the good that it negated any positive emotion that you could come away with. I could not think of one good thing that stands on it's own. I am relieved and happy to be out and free!
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Posters who make you ROFL
by doodle-v insometimes when i log on to jwd i go directly to "jokes and humor" because i know that there will be something there that will crack me up.
i love to laugh and i think humor is great therapy especially when alot of us have been through so much.
its great that we can make fun of ourselves and can find the humour in many of our experiences.
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exjdub
How can you forget Corvin? His line about Satan sending a daughter to be his (Corvin's) wife had me laughing so hard I got the hiccups!
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Now That's HOSPITALITY! - story from a road trip
by talesin inthis is just one of many stories of a particular adventure i had, and one that i have thought of many times over the years.
i?ve been on a lot of road trips, mostly in the us.
i have always come across friendly folk, and this is a particularly heart-warming experience that i wanted to share with y?all tonight.
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Tal,
All of my road trips have been pretty tame...maybe that's why I like good ones. I can live the stories through others. Please give us some more!
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Now That's HOSPITALITY! - story from a road trip
by talesin inthis is just one of many stories of a particular adventure i had, and one that i have thought of many times over the years.
i?ve been on a lot of road trips, mostly in the us.
i have always come across friendly folk, and this is a particularly heart-warming experience that i wanted to share with y?all tonight.
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exjdub
Great story talesin...Now you have to tell the rest of the adventure, especially the part with the drug dealer boss. Road stories are awesome!
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FLUFF,,blended with technical,,is a powerful weapon against WT mind control
by frankiespeakin ini would like to make a personal observation.. on this forum we have a very healthy bend of fluff and technical information,,that is very disarming to the jw reader.
i think this board is doing its own morphing,,that will help many jw out of the wt.. simon has done wonderful job,,with this site,,as well as our mods who show great tolerance in handling difficult situations that arise from time to time here.. .
to simon:.
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exjdub
I agree frankie.
It is probably the biggest reason I joined this board. There are many great topics, some silliness, a lot of reaching out to help and console, and some venting as well. I think what disarms people is that when we were in the Org we were all taught that apostates were evil and were bent on our destruction. After joining the dark side of the force (lol) and spending much time here I have found the opposite to be true. Most everyone here has treated those that had questions gently (those that truly questioned and not the trolls who try to stir things up) and have offered acceptance whether the questioning individual is still in the Org or not.
I also agree with your comments about Simon and the Mods. What a task to keep a forum running smoothly that by it's very existence brings out very strong emotions, and yes, sometimes great anger! Bravo Administration!
I also hate Pay Pal and was wondering the same thing, thanks for bringing it up. What say you Simon, can it be done?