Posts by Fleur

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Your weekend

by KW13 in

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what did you lot do this weekend?.

i had a friend i met on the web come down, been to the pub and had a laugh

It was mixed. Saturday was good, but I was just quietly working on an artistic project yesterday afternoon, listening to my iPod minding my own business...a certain song was shuffled on the playlist and I suddenly couldn't stop crying. I missed my grandmother so much. I still can't believe she's not here. I dreamed of her Saturday night and that always makes me miss her more. Being it's spring I miss her more this time of year too, miss her old house, we used to sit on the porch and talk and drink tea and listen to the birds and watch the trees blossom. I wanted to drive by the old place yesterday or go visit her grave...but I was just frozen. I've heard it's really run down (the house) now anyway and would just make me sadder.You can't go home again :(

Mcducket, sorry you had such a rough weekend. Nurses are so underappreciated!

Love the wedding dress Peaches...looks a lot like the one I wore when I got married the second time! Love love love it. Very exciting times for you, congratulations!

Infamous one, you're a good guy for doing what you did. Look at it this way, now that she's moved she won't ask you for anymore help likely! LOL and you had to earn karma points for all that, IMO...

essie

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July 15 2006 WT - Uncleanness - disfellowshp?- details

by BluesBrother in

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hope the scans show up ok.. the article is presented as it comes, for your own assessment.

you could not make this stuff up!

Fleur

Notice they bring up viewing child pornography, but fail to mention those should be reported to the authorities. -silent

What about turning in actual child molesters and rapists???!!! They don't do that, no, cause of that pesky "two witnesses' thing. But if you have child porn but are repentent...then you can continue to have access to all the naive families in the congregation?

This group just gets more dispicable.

I wonder though, if someone is df'd for say, phone sex or child porn, does that mean their mate has 'grounds' now? (not that I'm putting them on the same level at all, just showing the ridiculous range of so called 'df'ing offenses) Doubtful, but I have to wonder.

I feel so sorry for the tormented people trying to actually live up to this crud.

essie

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Threw away educational opportunities

by Cabin in the woods in

i actually wrote this late last night and when i tried to submit it i was rejected.

the reason for that is still a mystery to me and i vowed not to rewrite it as it would mean visiting myself and that is never easy.

sometimes as i look through the site and read to many posts i marvel at the beauty of the words and the complexity of the reasoning.

Fleur

Cabin, I too had to walk away from a full talent scholarship in music. How I have wondered what I might do if I could go back to school, but my health prevents it now.

Don't give up on your dreams. I have tried to find ways to include the things I gave up for the WTS in my life even if I can't do them to the fullest...writing, music, other creative work.

Even if I'm the only one who hears my voice when I sing, it's still worth doing.

Keep the dream alive...you're just beginning to live now. It's scary, but wonderful too. Pick up a brush and paint!!! Make your life as beautiful as your soul so obviously is. You deserve to be happy!!!

big hugs

essie

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Former sisters, remember the pant suit controversy in the seventies?

by Sunnygal41 in

i was in my late 'teens, working for my own money, and polyester pant suits were all the rage in fashion.

working at mc'donald's, i was able to afford two nice matching suits, with the jacket and vest, and a matching shirt...........these i wore to meetings, when i went.

then, the jw grapevine went into action, regarding the suitablity for a sister to be wearing pants at a meeting.

Fleur

My mother, who has always been extremely thin, got called into the back room over this because it was so freezing in the hall that she wore pants to keep from shivering/getting sick. About that same time my dad was reproved and lost his privileges for refusing to shave his beard. They were quite a pair, we were really popular in our cong. *not*!

Before she became too ill to go to the hall (she has phone line hookup now) she still wore pants. She just wore a skirt so big and long to her ankles, and tucked them into her boots, so no one would see.

Ridiculous, the whole thing!

essie

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Extra training ... so you know that shooting babies is WRONG ?!?

by Simon in

how dumb and pathetic.. no extra training should be necessary for even slightly trained and disciplined soldiers.

i guess it is for some of the rabble that the us call "troops" though.. of course the real problem is not just those on the ground that have committed the latest attrocity.

it is the chain of command that tried to cover it up and all the way up to the president who sanctions bombing of civilian targets with nothing more than rumour for "intelligence".. from now on america, you are on your own.

Fleur

Is this thread dead? I hope I"m not bringing it back if it is, but when I saw this I gasped out loud:

FleamanUK said:

How many of you feel that we Americans got what we deserved on 9/11?
I was as appalled as anyone at the loss of innocent life..but one has to think what goes around comes around.

Oh my freaking god. You did not just suggest that innocent children like the ones on the flights that plowed into the buildings deserved to die, are you? What could be 'coming around' to them??? Sounds like a throwback to the whole Jehovah will destroy you if you sin and don't repent thing to me! What about the bus bombings last year in London, was that universal payback too? Did those people deserve to die in your country or were they simply innocent victims? I wonder if you'd be surprised that some of us filthy bloodthirsty Americans actually undertook specific charitable ventures after the London bombings to show how badly we felt. Yes, I mean me. I cried that day just like I cried as I watched the towers fall. It didn't matter to me where the crimes were happening. I was thinking of the people. So go ahead, lump us all together if you want. You don't know who you're talking about, people are people, no one deserves to die for religious intolerance, which is what 9/11 and the London bus/train bombings were all about if you boil it down. essie sorry I can't get the frigging highlighter to go off.

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so exhausted you can't rest

by Utopian Reformist in

i have been on the road now since late march.

i am in helsinki, finland and am very very very tired.

i am flying out again tomorrow to mexico city via london & atlanta, ga. i will be working in mexico city until the 27th of may.

Fleur

What could I possibly add to those beautiful posts by Bebu and LDH? I couldn't say anything better, or more than that.

Mario, you are the only one still trapped in the fire. Please, save yourself, because we care about you, and Talia would want you to...I am so sorry for your pain, there are no words.

hugs,

essie

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What do you think you "go through" faster than just about anybody else?

by JH in

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i use lots of toilet paper.....

Fleur

Soap. Tons and tons of soap. I have to be fresh showered or else I don't feel happy at all.

But the upside...I've been told I smell really good LOL

essie

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How well do you know the person above you?

by JH in

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in other words, say something short, that you learnt on jwd, about the person above you.

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Fleur

geez I didn't mean to kill your thread, JH.

Just ignore my post people and go on from the post above me!

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How well do you know the person above you?

by JH in

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in other words, say something short, that you learnt on jwd, about the person above you.

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Fleur

One thing for sure about Prophecor, he's a survivor! I can't imagine all you've been through and here you are still. Quite impressive!

essie

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Why are we still here ?

by Genesis in

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hi mighty apostate crew, .

last weekend i was talking with my girlfriend and said to her that i was on an ex-jw forum.

her reaction was : if jws do not bother you anymore why are you still trying get information on them ?

Fleur

I finally got the guts to google JW's more than 2 years after I was df'd because my ex was giving me problems and I needed insight on issues surrounding dealing with shared custody with a JW and ex JW. Within two minutes of my posting, I had a ton of help and resources. I cried because I realized that not only wasn't I alone, but there were people who were willing and able to help me find my way through.

I have gone through long periods of hiatus from the forums. Sometimes it feels so not worth it to be here. But then I remember the way that I felt and I stay to try to help others in any small way I can. Giving back.

You'll know when it's time to leave. Until then, don't let anyone else tell you how you should be feeling or how you should be handling your 'freedom'. You get to pick your friends now :) It's part of the whole 'not a jw anymore' dealeo. Quite a nice part too :)

hugs

essie