touched on:"submit to theocratic arrangement
around here, they said "loyally submitting to Theocratic Order" otherwise we would suffer "divine judgement". If that isn't a cult, I don't know what is.
Posts by Fleur
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61What Terms Do Jehovah's Witnesses Use To Indicate They Are A Cult?
by minimus in.
"the organization" is one of my favorites.
very "cultish" expression, to me.......and you??
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Fleur
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Extrem earthquake near Indonesia (8,9), thousands of dead people
by Erich inan extrem strong earthquake happened recently in the indian ocean near island of sumatra.
level 8,5 - 8,9. no contact to many islands and coasts anymore.
no phone to the maledives and other touristic islands possible.
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Fleur
Yet more proof that there either is no god or he is complete scum.
Either way, there is no point worshiping an imaginary figure or a mass murdering sociopath.
Simon, this is exactly how I felt when I saw the documentary on the "dying rooms" in Chinese orphanages. The tsuname/earth quake just underscored it for me.
I'm sorry if my feelings offend people here who do believe...I do not disrespect your beliefs myself, but I would add (maybe in a little more gentle language than Simon used) that events like this are exactly the reason that I stopped believing that there is an almighty God.
I cannot reconcile the belief in an all-powerful being that cares for mankind with the devestation that is happening world-wide. This natural disaster is just the latest on my list.
I also do not understand why in situations like this, the people who survive think that god saved them. why would god choose to save one person and not others? why would innocent children die in this disaster and more than 200 prisoners from a maximum security prison were freed by the waves? I am sure that many good people died in this tragedy, and that some who would prey on others likely survived.
It makes no sense to me.
respectfully to all,
essie
edited because I forgot to add that my family is already using this as an excuse to remind me once again that the "end is near". I also definitely agree with Simon that it's disgusting how they pray for the worldwide brotherhood and 'screw the rest' indeed. that is not how anyone professing to be christian should behave. they should pray for help for all, if they believe that God is up there and willing and able to help.
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A few words to all of you
by Lady Lee infirstly i miss you all.
a lot!.
this past year has seen this group experience many joys and sorrows.
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Fleur
I've been missing you too, Lee!
I hope that you can get some relief from your pain, living with chronic pain is a hell you can't understand unless you've lived it...and my heart goes out to you my dear!
Please know that you are loved and thought of so much more than you know during your absence. Come home soon!
love,
essie
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remember me? I need your help!
by SlayerLayer inmany of you may remember me from "back in the day".
i hope you guys are doing well.
if any of you guys know where i can find the website or streams that are the basis for just about every new tv show and commercial that you see these days it would be very helpful.
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Fleur
OMG, Slayer. I remember you.
This is going to be hard for you to hear but I am going to repeat what Abaddon said:
I can imagine that it is tough to hear someone say 'you are drugging yourself into menatl illness'. But I really believe you are and hope you will not just stop listening because you immediately assume I am one of the bad guys as I don't agree with the above number points.
I have a sibling who has gone through, and is continuing to go through, these terrifying fears because of drug use. This sibling has permanently altered their brain chemistry and I am certain is now schitzophrenic because of past drug use. It is terrifying to see what is happening to this person that I love so much and cannot help.
It might not be too late to change this for you, though. Please, do whatever it takes to get clean. Check yourself into a hospital NOW. Because if you don't do this now, you may have to deal with the mental issues for the rest of your life.
We care about you, we want you to be happy and safe. Please, get into treatment TODAY.
hugs,
esmeralda
(new username, same old essie)
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Fleur
This is so horrible. Of course my JW relatives will say it's just another sign that armageddon is coming.
If 'god' was going to save the world, I wish he would have hurried up and done it already.
Those poor people :(
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THE xmass thread
by jwbot inmerry xmass everyone!
has anyone gotten presents yet?
what did you give?.
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Fleur
and hello kitty gifts
oh, HQ, you lucky girl! I LOVE Hello Kitty! I hope Santa brings me something HK this Christmas!
My dear hubby already got one of his biggest wishes...the red sox just re-signed Varitek for 4 more years. Merry Christmas! LOL
hugs
essie
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First Xmas present from my father in 21 years
by Nosferatu inlast night, i went to my parents' place to pick up something.
my dad didn't tell me what it was, but he said to pick it up.
the two items were all wrapped up in wrapping paper (even though it wasn't xmas wrapping paper).
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Fleur
That's so wonderful, I am so happy you are reconnecting in this way with Dad.
Merry Christmas!!!!
essie
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THE xmass thread
by jwbot inmerry xmass everyone!
has anyone gotten presents yet?
what did you give?.
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Fleur
oooooooooo what a gorgeous tree!
I got some surprise presents from friends already...including a great down throw and slipper set that is heavenly! I am really not expecting much for myself this holiday cause I got a trip as an early present in November. But I did it up big for our child as usual and I think hubby will be really happy too. He's been a very good boy this year :)
Happy Holidays everyone!!! You are all in my heart as I count my blessings this year.
essie
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Idea to help Utopian Reformist..... Benefit album!
by Nosferatu inmany of us here have been touched by mario's (utopian reformist) situation.
his life has taken an incredible spin and has thrown him into some pretty tough situations.. if you haven't read the situation, here's the thread:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/80403/1.ashx.
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Fleur
Hey Nos,
I sing, and play a teensy bit of piano but I don't have any good recording equipment :( And I haven't written a song in years.
Wish I could, would love to help...(((((((hug)))))) it's a beautiful idea, quite an undertaking, dear...
hugs,
essie
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Do you become empty inside after leaveing the witness's?
by PinTail ini find myself feeling empty inside sense drifting away after my being shuned, and my divorce from my wife who was a witness, and after my daughter had been molested by a stupid brother in the hall that my ex-wife started living with after my becoming disabled.
i am newly married now to a good women who is not a witness, but she is honest and kind to me and understands what i have been through, but still i feel a empty somewhere in side of me.
of note during this time of pain, i fell hit my head and lost a major portion of my brain which left me disabled, and very emotional at times feeling like all is lost, i just can't throw it.
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Fleur
Hi Shane,
I'm sorry that you're feeling lost right now. Believe me, I've been there. I was lucky enough too to find love with a wonderful person after leaving the Borg and that has opened up life to me in a way that I never imagined. He's taught me so much, never having been subject to the Dub guilt and grief.
I felt empty because of losing my family. But from the moment I realized "I'm not a Jehovah's Witness anymore" my soul felt more full, and alive, and inspired than it ever did droning along with the rank and file.
I wrote this a long time ago. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/4771/56672/post.ashx#56672 Maybe something in it will sound familiar to you, in my post or the replies. Just know that it does get SO much better in time, and to me now, I know that the emptiest life I could live would be if I ever gave in and went back. Can't do it, just can't.
Wishing you happiness...
essie