Thanks for all the great posts
much thanks
i've posted on freeminds for over a year now but i rarely post on the medical treatment forum.
i believe i've had depression or some other milder form of depression for many months but i haven't gotten antidepressants for a couple of reasons 1.pride- i feel that taken antidepressants is admittion that i'm weak, 2. fear- i don't have health insurance and i'm afraid of the financial reprocussions of prescriptions and mental healthcare visits.
3. i'm also afraid that by taking the medication it will have no affect (wasted money) or that i will be worse off after taking them than if i had done nothing.. give me some of your thoughts.
Thanks for all the great posts
much thanks
i've posted on freeminds for over a year now but i rarely post on the medical treatment forum.
i believe i've had depression or some other milder form of depression for many months but i haven't gotten antidepressants for a couple of reasons 1.pride- i feel that taken antidepressants is admittion that i'm weak, 2. fear- i don't have health insurance and i'm afraid of the financial reprocussions of prescriptions and mental healthcare visits.
3. i'm also afraid that by taking the medication it will have no affect (wasted money) or that i will be worse off after taking them than if i had done nothing.. give me some of your thoughts.
Hi,
I've posted on freeminds for over a year now but i rarely post on the medical treatment forum. I believe i've had depression or some other milder form of depression for many months but i haven't gotten antidepressants for a couple of reasons 1.pride- i feel that taken antidepressants is admittion that i'm weak, 2. fear- i don't have health insurance and i'm afraid of the financial reprocussions of prescriptions and mental healthcare visits. 3. i'm also afraid that by taking the medication it will have no affect (wasted money) or that i will be worse off after taking them than if i had done nothing.
give me some of your thoughts
for a girl.....height, stature and how they move their bodies
for a guy.....apparel, also stature and how they move their bodies (threatening/ nonthreatening)
but... thats just me !
i'm thinking about going back to the meetings.
hopefully just sunday meetings for awhile.
not because i want to or that i feel any inward guilt to return.
I'm thinking about going back to the meetings. Hopefully just sunday meetings for awhile. Not because I want to or that I feel any inward guilt to return. Recently my witness brother and i (i'm inactive btw) have taken in some witness friends. Friends that i still get along with well even though i am inactive.
Financially i am not able at the present time to get my own apartment. for the last year its just been my brother and myself in the house but i'm afraid with these new witnesses in the house it is going to bring more intolerance into an already awkward living arrangement.
I hope to land myself a decent job within the next 4 or 5 months which would allow me to move out. But until then i have to find a way to make these next months bearable.
worked in subscription department with sister knorr, we both collected odd names of people.. shook hands with freddie franz.
i was awe struck.
kind of like when i shook hands with michael dorn except for totally different reasons..
Have friends who used to tour with Larry Graham and Graham Central Station. After a concert I got a personal tour of the Tour bus. Met Larry and got to hang with the band.
never fit in.
never cared to.
most witnesses bored me to absolute tears.
Probably in the A group if u asked the average witness. But to answer your question brigid. yes, i have had a tougher time being popular in the "world" than in the witnesses.
As a witness I had all the right things from birth on to be integrated into the social club. Multi-generational witness family ties, elder father, zealous spiritual mother.
I was a social butterfly.....navigating through the various social cliques (rejects, pretty popular, geek chic, ) with ease. I never ever gossiped about people, and i could always find an interesting topic to bring up in conversation. I was an easy person to get a along with and i would say that i had a lot of friends.
After i left i feel i was very skeptical of people, i was very defensive. and If theres one thing i've learned its that you can't really make friends and be popular if your hiding something. This is something i have to continually struggle with. But i am getting better.
jws aren't supposed to breakdown in their emotions for it could be a sign that you put too much emphasis on the temporary.
just focus on the ressurection, for heaven' sake!
don't mourn like the world that does not have hope!
Interesting i was just thinking of this subject recently. REcently a witness associate i know forwarded an email to all his friends about how someone he knew at work died and was very hurt by it.
He writes in his email:
I worked there for two months now and got to know the people there ,nice people, food and good pay.I got to know the trainer real well .Only as well as a Witness could get with a Worldly persons .I would talk to my trainer ,her name was Gabby ,Gabby was a nice person nice for a worldly girl ,I knew that she was worldly thus did my best to not make her think that i was interested I told her my beliefs ,she understood and said that's fine I respect that so she knew that I didn't like her based on my beliefs .So weeks later I mention I don't have a car to one of the other people there at my job and she,Gabby over hears what I said about not having a car .That night she offers me a ride home I accept
the email was very long so i will try to only include important quotes !!
So weeks later I mention I don't have a car to one of the other people there at my job and she,Gabby over hears what I said about not having a car .That night she offers me a ride home I accept.It went well we talked I told her of my beliefs and my religion she was interested and I thought I was making a wittiness I was but not doing it the right way .So I arrive home and I go to get out of the car and she says wait so she pulls me to her and kisses me . I am upset and i felt bad and got mad at her and ran inside so........I dont speak to her i tell her [you know about my beliefs[, I told you .Well what do you know shes WORLDLY.So weeks go by she calls me on the phone and says ,,,John I'm sorry about that I'm wrong I just want you to know that it is a new year and I will try to be friends with every body I'm sorry ,I don't listen I DON'T EVEN CARE! I don't even pay attention to what she says .Even she trys to come to me at work and say shes sorry I don't care . five days later I get terrible news ..................I go into work that morning Sunday .10;00 .I am going to the back when my manager says I need you to be strong John be strong someone you know got .........And the the other manager says wait not now wait and until everyone gets here to tel the news .So 30 minutes later .when the rest of the employees arrive she lets us have it ...'Everyone' She says Gabby and Kevin had a car wreck ..'Oh no 'I gasp She continues' Gabby didn't make it' .Those four words ill always remember coming out of her mouth sharp enough to cut stone apart .I wanted to scream I wanted to rush to her and Say I'm sorry I forgive you I'm sorry we can still be friends except this time its to late I had my chance while she was here .No forgiveness shell never here I'm sorry
I was really touched by this email he sent to everyone. so i write him back.
JOhn, man, i am SO, SO incredibly sorry to hear this !! Its unfortunate when someone (witness and worldly alike) touches us in some way, listens to what we have to say, somehow makes an impact on our life and something really, really, crappy, like this happens to them. Its just not fair !! Sometimes life has some pretty dark moments. Life gives us all scars. Scars of guilt, scars of regret,..... nobody is perfect, not you or I or GAbby. and i know that a death such as this must be torture. you tell yourself "So many things that could have been said, even little things, a smile I could have given, anything to say "i appreciate you being here." sorry man, i'm really sorry. email me any time.Below is a response posted by one of my witness associates. The emphasis is completely taken away from the person it should have been given to the most. the girl who died !!
THAT'S OKAY, JOHN. JEHOVAH KNOWS YOU'RE SORRY, AND EVERYBODY ELSE DOES
TOO. AND JEHOVAH UNDERSTANDS YOUR DESPONDENCY.
YOU DID THE RIGHT THING THAT NIGHT BY LEAVING HER IMMEDIATELY AND GOING
INSIDE. IF YOU REMEMBER, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT JOSEPH DID IN THE BIBLE
WHEN POTTIPHER'S WIFE TRIED THE SAME THING WITH HIM. HE RAN AWAY.
SEE, I KNOW A FEW 'BROTHERS' WHO ARE BAPTIZED WHO DIDN'T DO WHAT YOU
DID, AND WHO LET IT GO FURTHER BECAUSE THEY WERE TEMPTED; AND BECAUSE
OF THEIR MISTAKE, SOME OF THEM ARE NO LONGER SERVING JEHOVAH. I KNOW
OF SOME SISTERS WHO'VE DONE THE SAME THING AND ENDED UP IN A TERRIBLE
SITUATION. SO, BY BEING QUICK AND DECISIVE AND NOT FORGETTING
JEHOVAH'S RULES, YOU AVOIDED SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE HURT YOU AND
EVEN GABBY A GREAT DEAL.
I'M NOT TRYING TO COME DOWN HARD ON GABBY. SHE WAS IN THE WORLD AND
APPARENTLY, JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO CONDUCT HERSELF. AT THE SAME TIME,
SHE 'DID' KNOW WHAT YOUR STAND WAS ON THE MATTER SO SHE SHOULD HAVE
RESPECTED THAT, SO IT WAS UNDERSTANDABLE WHY YOU WOULD BE ANGRY WITH
HER AT FIRST.
JEHOVAH KNOWS YOU FORGIVE GABBY AND HE REMEMBERS HER. ONLY HE KNOWS
FOR
SURE WHAT WAS IN HER HEART. HE ALSO KNOWS THAT SHE WAS SORRY FOR WHAT
SHE DID TO YOU. WE DON'T KNOW 'WHO' WILL BE RESSURECTED. IT'S ONLY
FOR JEHOVAH TO SAY. ONE THING WE 'DO' KNOW IS THAT THERE WILL BE "A
RESSURAECTION OF BOTH THE RIGHTEOUS AND THE UNRIGHTEOUS." (ACTS 24:15)
SO I ,FOR ONE, AM PROUD OF YOU AND HOPE YOU CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS
IN
JEHOVAH'S SERVICE JUST AS I NEED TO; JUST AS WE ALL NEED TO.
MEANWHILE, ARE YOU WORKING TUESDAY NIGHT OR DO YOU HAVE A MEETING?
i was just curious.
if ever somone would make a film based on the conception of the jw religion.
which actors would be chosen?.
I was just curious. If ever somone would make a film based on the conception of the jw religion. which actors would be chosen?
I thought it would be interesting to see a film explore how rutherford changed the bible students.
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like that, they wouldn't need so many elders and ms. they would have plenty of brothers to read and pass the mic.. no where in the bible do they mention how big or small a congregation should be.
if ever one day they have a hard time forming enough ms and elders, wouldn't it be simpler to just make congregations larger?
Easier to control !!!
Also, while witnesses love to claim that they an example to all in the community, they like to keep somewhat of a low profile. Kingdumb halls are therefore small and usually (in my experience) in areas removed from community populations i.e. outskirts of towns. Probably also land is cheaper !!
old heated paint.
let me explain.
the old kh i went to would give off this strange smell of burnt paint ever time the central heating was put on.
strange post,
the assembly hall smell
definitely the assembly hall smell
i don't know where the smell originates from in the convention center but it sure has a unique odor !!