Sirona
LT
I put that line in just for you because I know you get bored without regular opportunities to flirt.
the following i wrote to a friend this morning and doctored slightly for this forum.
can any of you relate to this kind of mystical experience and if you would be kind enough, would you mind me quoting any experiences listed to my friend?
please be aware that the letter uses language to detach me away from the watchtower (thus church, instead of congregation etc).
Sirona
LT
I put that line in just for you because I know you get bored without regular opportunities to flirt.
if your 31 year old daughter that lives in your house locked the door to her bedroom with her boy friend inside what would you do???
this same guy is the father of her son, and pays no child support ......and rarely visits.......... is she too old to scold????
would you knock on the door??
If you put aside your judgement about her life choices, maybe you could just arrange with her to do the dirty deed when you're not in the house. I wouldn't want anyone else having sex in my house, married or unmarried, baby or no baby, while I was there. That's just too personal. The questions of baby and marital status are long out of your hands, but the question of your comfort and her rudeness are issues you can still negotiate.
the following i wrote to a friend this morning and doctored slightly for this forum.
can any of you relate to this kind of mystical experience and if you would be kind enough, would you mind me quoting any experiences listed to my friend?
please be aware that the letter uses language to detach me away from the watchtower (thus church, instead of congregation etc).
For a pk experiment that's been running at Princeton for years google Jahn and Dunne at the PEAR lab. It seems to have produced and replicated small but statistically significant results.
I don't understand why skeptics feel so comfortable pointing to probability every time something unexplainable happens, because that it is actually very irrational. Probability makes no meaning whatsover out of peculiar events that have no obvious cause. Even the simplest bivalent acts do not actually conform to probability predictions, and the more complicated ones are not even analyzable in terms of probability, because reality is basically a chaotic, emergent system.
If I am talking about a dream I had about a golden scarab, and then a rare golden scarab flies at the window repeatedly, probabality theory could not begin to cope with that. The skeptic can then say it was a coincidence, which is tautological, and as meaningless as saying it was god who sent it. Or they could say the person was lying, which is of course an equally untestable statement, since they weren't there. It's the skeptics who can't say "I don't know why or how that happened" because they can't bear not to have an explanation.
Also, just because we don't know the cause of something doesn't mean it doesn't happen, that is perfectly obvious. Nobody knows why a changing electric field produces a magnetic field and vice versa, they just know that it does and you can use it to start an engine. Nobody has the faintest idea how gravity works, they've been searching for a vector for years but haven't found one. Funny how they still believe in it though.
And it is not logical to say that because something can't be replicated under laboratory conditions, it doesn't happen. I, for example, doubt that I could become sexually aroused in a lab, but that does not mean I never get turned on. Saying that non-testable events or experiences are in some way not valid is actually an emotional and NOT a rational response.
And last but not least, ALL evidence is anecdotal. The difference is the conditions under which the observation is made, and who makes the observation. Even if 100 scientists all observe the same thing, they are each having a subjective experience. We're supposed to believe that because they are trained to be objective and because they all agree on the observation, they are somehow removed from the limitations of human perception and subjectivity. But that is also an irrational belief.
i am currently attempting to get my passport and am very eager to visit the uk.
i don't want to go there and get stuck at some cheap tourist trap, nor do i want to spend a crap load of money on hotel only.
the prices i look online, usually, as i always find them to be, are extremely over priced.
If i were to meet anyone from this board, don't worry i'll ask 'are you from jw.com?' and get names before addressing.
Actually, my point was not to use the word "fanny", which is in my board name (myauntfanny). It has an entirely different meaning there than here.
i am dating a man who is a jw and i am not.
i attend a nondenominational church.
i found out from a mutual friend of ours, two months after my boyfriend and i had met, that he was a jw.
XQ, for goodness sake, she loves him, please quit calling him a jerk and a weasel and also please quit saying he is just exploiting her for sex, that's insulting to her too. He sounds like a perfectly nice but confused person. And some of the other things you're saying are not really true. It may be technically okay to celebrate birthdays but you know as well as I do that it is so heavily discouraged, it might as well be outright forbidden. And other holidays ARE outright forbidden. Also you say she should find a "liberal and tolerant" JW but, in the first place, a wife needs to be more than tolerated. And in the second place, the most liberal and tolerant JW in the world still believes in Armageddon and that all non-JWs will be killed in it, hopefully next week. I mean to be a JW, you really have to believe that, right? Please tell me if that's changed, XQ, because it's important. No religion that seriously hopes for the mass destruction of most of humanity is harmless, however parochial it may be.
hi everyone.............i have a very sweet niece, whose husband has almost the same kind of lymphoma that dansk does, and i have been showing her the board's discussion about him and his responses.
she had this idea that i told her i would present to everyone to see what you think.
(doesnt' have to be prayer in the sense we used to think of it, just positive thinking) she is a university of washington educated psychologist, and an ex jw (since she was a young teen) and leans towards buddhism now.. <<i have an idea for people to try that i read about in.
Absolutely. Can you post the time GMT?
i am dating a man who is a jw and i am not.
i attend a nondenominational church.
i found out from a mutual friend of ours, two months after my boyfriend and i had met, that he was a jw.
I always write the same thing to the people who come on here asking if it can work. Sometimes they are young people and not thinking about children at all, but you are thinking about children already, so it's really important to know this. JWs believe that Armageddon is going to come any day, and they hope for it to come soon. The believe that EVERYONE who is not a JW will be killed in Armageddon. The children are taught this for at least five hours a week. At some point children understand that this means you, their mother, and their beloved grandparents, their uncles, aunts, cousins, nieces, nephews, etc. It also means all their friends at school.
The damage this does to a child is mindboggling. If they are young when it dawns on them, they may become very frightened about losing you. They may develop difficulties attaching to anybody. They may do what a lot of JWs do and reject everybody who isn't JW because they don't want to suffer losing them in Armageddon. If they have non-JW impulses themselves, they will have to live with the fear of themselves dying in Armageddon.
It is a religion that is designed for exclusion. To be included you have to be a JW, period. There's no middle path. They do not negotiate.
since many folks here were raised as a jw, just curious, when u were younger(20's).
did u have close worldly friends?
by friends, i don't mean just someone to go hang out at the mall or something.
Absolutely not allowed when I was growing up JW, but that was a long time ago, 30-40 years. I guess things have changed some. And even back then I imagine some parents were stricter than others. My mom was the strictest I have ever seen, but she had no friends herself and I guess she didn't think they were necessary.
i tend to think so.
perhaps it's the kama sutra thing, but it seems that most women who are into astrology, clairvoyance, eastern religions, yoga and the like are more open sexually.
also, it seems that most women either are involved in christianity or the new age.
Yes, they ARE more open sexually. They love to have sex, more than anything else. But not with rationalist atheist skeptics.
Edited to add a smiley so you'd know I was just kiddin ya
blood meridian by cormac mccarthy.
i am legend by richard matheson.
my work is not yet done by thomas ligotti.
I read the Lynne McTaggart book, I thought it was really interesting.
I am currently reading:
The Ground Beneath Her Feet, Salman Rushdie
Getting to Yes, Ury and Fischer
Berlin Stories, Christopher Isherwood
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