for those of you who will be disgusted that i even attended the meeting, let alone allow my son to give his first public talk tonight, please, spare me the shouting messages.
i take full responsibility for what i experienced this evening.
yet, i feel the need to share this experience that has me enraged.
Enroll him in an acting class or a debate/public speaking course.
He probably likes the stage and the attention not the subject matter of the TMS.
Sounds like a smart kid, so you did a lot right in raising him.
Don't kick yourself to bad.
You did the right thing.
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which do you like better pepsi or coke?.
evanescence *wish there were voting polls on this forum
Pepsi for me.
richie's thread got me wondering what ever happened to the practice of chaperoning???
i mean really, was this just a regional thing where i grew up?
we had to have a chaperone always with the opposite gender even if we were old!
Chaperones were a big deal in Brooklyn as well.
It became really difficult when you are planning a wedding and life together when you needed to coordinate your schedule with not only your intended, but a 3rd party.
We had to have a 3rd party go with us to the travel agent to book our honeymoon.
I guess I could have taken her under a desk or something because obviously we had no self control.
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although i am pleased when i hear about children of dubs who are pursuing sports at the high school, college and professionally level, it also disturbs me that so many of us in the past lost out on these opportunities because of the rigid views of the dubdum.. a friend of mine that is still active says that many of these changes or new light occurrs because thinking dubs stand up to the elders and make these personal decisions for their family without the advice of elders.. do you ever feel that you should/could stand up for your beliefs even when they are against the advice of elders, eventually you could inspire change within the religion?.
i ask because through out history change has ocurred because of standing up to those in authority.. examples, gandi, martin luther king, susan b. anthony to name just a few.. what are your thoughts?.
Although I am pleased when I hear about children of Dubs who are pursuing sports at the high school, college and professionally level, it also disturbs me that so many of us in the past lost out on these opportunities because of the rigid views of the dubdum.
A friend of mine that is still active says that many of these changes or new light occurrs because thinking dubs stand up to the elders and make these personal decisions for their family without the advice of elders.
Do you ever feel that you should/could stand up for your beliefs even when they are against the advice of elders, eventually you could inspire change within the religion?
I ask because through out history change has ocurred because of standing up to those in authority.
Examples, Gandi, Martin Luther King, Susan B. Anthony to name just a few.
What are your thoughts?
How about David and Bathsheba.
They sin, their son dies. Why was the kid punished?
i have a few funny jw wedding stories.
the first is what happened at my ex-husband's wedding.
he remarried only 6 months after our divorce and so i guess the brother who gave the marriage talk hadn't quite recovered because when he announced the new couple to the congregation, he announced my name rather than the new bride's.
This should probably go in a bad wedding stories thread, but I tell it anyway.
Back in the 80's a good friend of mine employed an elder (from the Bronx) to make all of the wedding parties gowns, the mothers of the bride and grooms gowns, and the bride's gown for his wedding.
This brother had a good reputation and we all knew this elder since we were kids.
I and my wife were part of the wedding party, so when 3 days before the wedding my wife didn't have her gown, we both thought it was a little strange, but he was an elder right? What could go wrong?
Well, fast forward to the day of the wedding, the elder calls the bride 3 hours before the wedding and says that he is on his way - about a 30 minute drive. She's not happy about that, but remains calm.
4 hours later, no elder, no gowns, all the guests are waiting in the KH for the wedding party, the wedding party is waiting for the elder.
Long story short, the elder never showed up, the bride wore a nice dre she had in closet, the mothers made due, and in the end they were happily married and still are married 20 years later although they are no longer witlesses.
The elder, was not deleted, he was only spoken to about not fully calculating the costs when he agrees to do a job.
the real reason why young people get baptized .... to make their parents happy and proud.
to be able to get married (which is some cases, is to get away from parents).
... okay, okay, i know it depends on how young we are talking.
I wanted to please my mom who was going through a hard time with my dad.
Also it was 1973, with 1975 right around the corner, I was afriad that mom's devotion was enough to get me into the new ystem.
I wayyy too young.
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did you or anyone you know needed to be dunked more than once because their body wasn't fully imersed.. my cousin needed to be dunked 4 times unitl he was finally fully immersed on the 5th try.. he was humilated and left the dubs about 6 months later.. everyone gossiped it was because he hadn't fully dedicated himself to jehovah on his baptism day.. the truth was, he is very tall and the pool was extremely shallow.
Did you or anyone you know needed to be dunked more than once because their body wasn't fully imersed.
MY cousin needed to be dunked 4 times unitl he was finally fully immersed on the 5th try.
He was humilated and left the dubs about 6 months later.
Everyone gossiped it was because he hadn't fully dedicated himself to Jehovah on his baptism day.
The truth was, he is very tall and the pool was extremely shallow.
dear red sox nation,.
it looks like we will go into the weekend series 2 games behind the yankees, which means we will need to sweep in order to win the division and if we don't.......we won't win the wild card either.
this could be worst than bucky effing dent and aaron effing boone.
GO YANKESS GO!
THE SOXS SUCK!
is there any demographic information available on jws, such as average age?
i have a friend who is a devout jw and he invited me to the memorial this year.
one thing that interested me is that there were perhaps 10 guys and girls under 30. my friend mentioned to me that most kids leave the org when they're around 18. he's 23, and still lives with his parents.
I would agree that most children leave the dubs once they leave home.
In my house the rule was, "as long as you live under my roof, you must attend the meetings and be active".
I am sure my mom regrets that now.
