It depends upin what the meaning of "is" is...
"God's spirit-directed organization"?
hi i am new and this is my first post.
i would like to find out from a jw why the watchtower changed the wording in their baptisms.
please read the following and post a comment.
It depends upin what the meaning of "is" is...
"God's spirit-directed organization"?
hi i am new and this is my first post.
i would like to find out from a jw why the watchtower changed the wording in their baptisms.
please read the following and post a comment.
1916 the battle began, 1985 they achieved their goal?
hi i am new and this is my first post.
i would like to find out from a jw why the watchtower changed the wording in their baptisms.
please read the following and post a comment.
I wonder if one could say that in 1985 the "Evil Slave" took control of the WT organization.
Nina
well, this week i become a college graduate.
thanks for all those who offered encouragement over the years.
it meant a lot to me.
I'm happy for you!
Nina
there was some really piddily-crap that i remember.. for instance, when i was about 17 toe-rings became popular, and one of the sisters bought one....wore it to the kh during the summer with her sandals.
my best friend in the hall wanted one, which of course caused this huge debate about whether it would be okay 'in jehovah's eyes', and didn't it go against the scripture that counsels women against "bodily adornment", blah-blah-blah.
toe rings??!
Not to have Priscilla curtains (the criss-cross type) in my living room. The book study was held there and the P.O./Conductor told me that his mother was afraid someone would shoot at her through the window.
Nina
was there ever a person that you just "knew" to be a "bad guy"?
i knew a co. his name was [edit] angelacos.
he loved to go into congregations and remove elders.
Terry A******** wasn't "bad" simply because he removed elders and pioneers. He was doing what he was sent in to do.
I didn't know him well, but he did me a great honor once (and no I am not going to tell you what it was or when it happened).
Maybe you didn't like him. That's your prerogative.
Maybe you ARE him. If you are, I hope you are well and happy.
Nina
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are angels/demons/god in fact aliens?
i know that word 'alienz' will put a lot of people off, but really, are extraterrestrials the same thing as the beings in the bible, and is it just a choice in terminology of which words we are more comfortable with using, if you think they are not the same thing, why do you think this?.
They are! They are! Yes! Yes!!!
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it has been said that one cannot unlearn what one has learned.when it comes to all the years of learning from the watchtower, is it easy or hard for you to unlearn, get it out of your mind so to speak and go on to learn newer and more meaningful things outside the walls of the watchtower.. when i was active in the watchtower there was the potentially endless cycle of assertions, analysis, counterassertions, qualifications, redefinitions, exceptions,extentuations, complications, hidden presuppositions, emotional colorings,and summations, ad infinitum.it had been exhausting.but now, i find a measure of relief, not from unlearning but from dismissing from my mind all of what i have learned from the watchtower for over 30 years.. and yet from time to time all those things taught by the watchtower for all those years resurface on my mind,so for me it is not easy to unlearn what i have learned.what about you?.
blueblades
Can you "unlearn"? Sure you can!
Learning is that which results in a change in behavior (according to some class I took)...
If you have "learned" things that you now wish to unlearn, think of this: you learned once, you learn every day, you can learn again. Nothin' to it.
Are the things you heard while involved with WT influencing your behavior at present? Or are they just "memories"?
One of the more erudite members of this discussion board may wish to fancy up what I am saying which is....
It sounds to me like you are talking about "memories" and not "learning". Good. The discomfort associated with memories usually fades with the passage of time.
Keep moving forward..it will get easier!
Nina
i've visited this board before and enjoyed it very much.
i was disfellowshipped many years ago, then went through 7 years of not even thinking about jws.
three years ago i started studying the bible.
Yes, it seems that something has a hold on you.
If you say "the organization" does, you will spin your wheels fighting WT.
If you say that "conditioning" is what held you back, there is hope. You can retrain your mind.
Think it through.
Nina
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Same thought... http://groups.msn.com/feedback.msnw
I don't think that MSN meant Groups to be used solely as a link to a religious website.
If enough people complain...