When I was researching this question, I found only one non-JW reference to 607 on the Internet. Even then, the site seemed to be from an x-JW who formed his own church.
I spent hours going to libraries and book stores looking at their history books for 607. I couldn't find any reference. The Watchtower hasn't found one either as you cannot find any quote or reference in any JW publication that says 607.
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Who besides WTS believes in 607?
by ezekiel3 inthis is a genuine question on my part.
i understand the arguments for 587 vs 607 regarding the destruction of jerusalem.
what i want to know is, are there any organizations (religious or other) besides jws that believe 607?
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Did anyone watch the latest Frontline?
by eljefe inhere is the link to it.
it is about "al qaeda's new front" and talks about the radical muslims in europe and terrorism in general in europe.
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eljefe
I have seen so many opinions on this, and experts on each side discounting what the others are saying that it makes the head ache.
I really haven't seen any experts say there isn't a problem. They only vary on how grave they think the problem is.
Can someone summarize please?
Radical muslims are creating terrorist cells in Europe. They have already tried to carry out many attacks including the train bombing in Spain. Many Muslim immigrants are coming to Europe. They can't find a job and turn back to religion and some find an extremist mosque/peope/iman.
Who attacked who first?
Depends on how far back you go in time. Some say the first act of terrorism was in Iran in the 1970's when a group of students took over the US embassy.
What was the response?
The US sent an ill fated Special Forces mission to free the hostages and had many problems. For years US foreign policy simply ignored a growing threat. This was up to and including the Clinton administration. After 9-11, things changed and these extremists were given more attention.
How did that go?
Just look around. There is a growing fundamentalist movement. It will keep on getting worse because it would be polically incorrect to target a certain group or religion.
Finally, what in the blue blazes can someone like me do about it?
Arm yourself and learn how to use those firearms in self-defense. In reality, there is nothing you can do. According to their fundamentalist beliefs, they can kill anyone who is not a Muslim without blinking an eye.
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Did anyone watch the latest Frontline?
by eljefe inhere is the link to it.
it is about "al qaeda's new front" and talks about the radical muslims in europe and terrorism in general in europe.
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We need someone to police the world. They could be called Team America: World Police.
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Did anyone watch the latest Frontline?
by eljefe inhere is the link to it.
it is about "al qaeda's new front" and talks about the radical muslims in europe and terrorism in general in europe.
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Non Jw Dating a JW
by propel ini'm a non jw currently seeing a jw.
i am not totaly clear about the rules about jw's in dating.
could someone explain this to me and does it vary from family to family at all?
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Here is another vote to RUN!
You may be a means to an end for her. She wants to leave JW's but can't do it on her own. Once she decides that she won't/can't leave she will ditch you. You will be left high and dry, wondering why she won't talk to you anymore.
By the way, this is a true story. It didn't happen to me, but happened to a friend of mine. They were even engaged! It was such a bad experience for him that he won't talk about it to this day.
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Do you still Patronize Women?
by limbo ini was thinking today about how jehovah's witnesses are conditioned to view women.
i'm sure there have been many threads and discussions on this subject.
just curious how you view women now that you are no longer a jw?
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should be there when you need her
Not at my beckon call, but would at least answer the phone.
fix you dinner
I cooked for my last girlfriend orders of magnitude more than she cooked for me (once).
clean up after you
Those who don't cook, clean. But this didn't happen with my last GF either.
look good
Indubitably.
please you sexually
Double indubitably.
shut up when she should
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Why did I leave after 50 yrs a JW
by londoner ini am not posting this to justify my actions, i am doing so for the benifit of any witnesses who are unsure about there feelings toward the "truth".
i was a reguler pioneer for about 8 yrs, back when it was 100 hours a month, befor thet i did a couple of yrs as a vacation pioneer, they later changed the name to auxilery pioneer, and during the following 20 yrs i had a few intermitant spells as an auxilery when i had time to.
during my pioneer years i have given talks at circuit assemblies and had assignments at district assemblies .
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I feel my life has been wasted, taken from me, yes I am bitter, I still lose sleep over it often, but I am slowly starting to feel a heavy weight has been lifted from my back.
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Anyone Tried Online Dating Sites?
by eljefe inafter reading this thread, i started wondering whether online dating sites work well.
has anyone had any success with dating sites?
if so, which one?
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1. Wanting sex only,
2. Geeks and losers who can't find that special someone,
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Anyone Tried Online Dating Sites?
by eljefe inafter reading this thread, i started wondering whether online dating sites work well.
has anyone had any success with dating sites?
if so, which one?
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I was in a casino last night and I said to the croupier, "Im just going to the bar to get a drink", and a girl, a complete stranger said to me, "I'll look after your chips" (there was about £7000) I said ok and went to the bar. When I got back, she gave me £300 pound back and had lost the rest gambling with my money. I have to point out at this stage that is was toy money in aid of the tsunami, but even so. [I know the more I experience of women, the more cynical I am becoming]
The real questions is, would she have given you your winnings had she done well?
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Anyone Tried Online Dating Sites?
by eljefe inafter reading this thread, i started wondering whether online dating sites work well.
has anyone had any success with dating sites?
if so, which one?
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It sound like I should be looking for a swingers site instead of a singles site.