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  Videos at the a$$emb£ies?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my spies tell me that they are getting shown videos very regularly at the 2 day convention(tm).. i figured it may be because the wbt$ wants mass indoctrination using their tried and tested propaganda techniques.. the average elder won't be aware that the wbt$ uses these thought reform techniques so will be incapable of using them himself.

  also, the elder might not put the money grabbing, 1984 ministry of truth spin on things and actually say something good instead.

  we know the wbt$ don't like 'good'!

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  fiddler

  That was a brilliant word twist there Punk! Always been easy to use $$ for S's but the £ for L's...have remember that!
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  Back in the Basement

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  looks like the faithful jws are back in the basement, the oct 15th wt has this image on page 9. but now the lights have been turned out!

  i guess the persecution is really kicking in if the electric company has shut off their electricity, or the jws are really, really paranoid that the government is gonna get them if they have the lights on!.

  only one guy is smart enough to use his tablet (far right), the rest of the jws are old school, using a lantern to read their bibles in the dark!

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  fiddler

  If things are that dire they sure as hell won't be using their IPad or at least the older ones sure won't be...

  I just can't even look at this in any real time context. It's just plain stupid.

  Stupid JW propaganda
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  Why is the Governing Body pushing the very young(5-12 year old) into getting baptized into subservience to the Corporation?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i think a very simple reason may be because the very young are pretty much the only ones naive enough to take the plunge these days.

  with the internet available to inform people about the deceptive lies printed by the wt corporation it seems that they are getting their member from the less informed population like the elderly and the very young.

  they/gb hate higher education because they loose members who get one and so they are focusing on those that are dumb enough to believe their boogie man bull shit about jehovah choosing their corporation and anybody not a part of it he will destroyed at armageddon.. also we need to consider that they view these young people as a potential free labor source so the sooner you get them hooked into baptism with the threat of disfellowshipping you can get more free labor out of them..

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  fiddler

  We know and the corporation knows. The problem is letting the kids know what is actually going on. It is so terribly frustrating.
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  Tsarnaev guilty - should he get death or not?

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  i think he probably will (it is the us after all) but i hope he doesn't.

  he caused incredible pain and suffering to men, women and children who had never done anything to him.

  many died in unimaginable agony, others are disabled for life.

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  fiddler

  I vote no death penalty. Let him grow old in prison and maybe be a voice to other young people who are thinking of making a choice like he did...don't do it! He sounds a bit contrite but he is young. If he really does 'feel' the pain he has caused then let him live with that but maybe be a voice to young people who are caught up in similar dangerous cults and ideologies.
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  How strong were you in “The Truth?”

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when you were still asleep in the watchtower organization and had no idea of ttatt.

  what would you have done if you were in a serious accident and all of a sudden you woke up in the emergency hospital room with all the brothers and sisters at your side and your spouse cheering you on to be faithful to jehovah.

  then the doctor comes up to you and tells you that you are about to go into surgery because there is no time to lose and the only way to live is to take a blood transfusion ?

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  fiddler

  I went through 4 full term pregnancies, first a C-section and also a miscarriage sandwiched between child 3 and 4. With the C-section I did state the no blood thing but don't remember signing anything. I think I left it to my husband and TBH, I am not sure what he actually would have done. I did lose a lot of blood but after the baby was out I went out. What happened while I slept I don't know and at the time I chose the don't ask, don't tell route. I was just glad to be alive.

  I considered myself a 'good' witness but this was a subject I didn't want to think about the reality of...picture ostrich with head in sand. I think that is true for a lot of witnesses. They just don't like to think about the reality of needing a blood transfusion and really, most never face it. I do remember feeling relieved knowing that for my children the state would most likely take the decision out of my hands with a court order. I have carried the JW prohibition of blood with me and still feel I would only take a transfusion in an emergency but as has been pointed out, due to HIV blood transfusion is generally used only during emergencies. I am working on ridding my mind of the residual JW crap still knocking about in my head.
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  RULES FOR (APOSTATE) RADICALS---ARE YOU LISTENING, WATCHTOWER?

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  .......................are you listening, watchtower?this is a time for revolution and not revelation!you claim revelation, but we claim revolution.

  it shall be a quiet, methodical, and--above all--effective revolution against your revelation.. 1. know the difference between being realistic rather than being rhetorical.. _______________________.

  to be effective, you must give full respect to your audience's values or else you shut down their ability to hear and listen.

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  fiddler

  Very good strategy and many of the points I think have been tried (I know I used some of them) but the problem for ex-JW'S outside the walls is that the watchtower leadership have pretty effectively barred the gates as far as talking to JW family and friends go. It was because many were using these strategies IMO that the doors of communication were slammed shut and very hard back in 2011. It does work and they bleeding out membership. That's when I think their campaign of hate speech began in ernest. So, that leaves this stategic attack to be waged from within the walls like the Trojan Horse and yes, there are many who are awake to TTAT but still occupying a seat in the kh. I'd say it falls on them to lay siege.
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  TERRY EXPLAINS JAZZ (to those who hate jazz)

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  terry explains jazz (to those who hate jazz)_______________________________.

  there are too many reasons to cite.

  suffice to say, we all know annoying people.. we don't become a hermit because of a few annoying people.

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  fiddler

  Terry, nice post! I am a 'vile'inist but mostly a fiddler that has been called upon from time to time to play some jazz. I can usually pull off the melodic parts in a jazzy sort of way but am still a bit lost on the improv part. Jazz takes off and follows it's own rules (or maybe no rules) as far as I can tell. I tend to 'think too much' and totally lose it on the improv. I know that you need to be totally comfortable and into the music and feeling it. It's that 2 / 5 thing! It's something I still hope to be able to achieve before my life is over! I love Bach and I've been told by other musician friends that Bach knew Jazz a few hundred years ahead of it's time! Just listen to Stephan Grappeli and Django Reinhart play Concerto on D minor by Bach duet!
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  I had breakfast with 50+ JWs on Sunday

  by zimunzucz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we pulled into a hotel parking lot saturday around 6pm on the return leg of a wonderful family vacation to new england - an then fate stepped in---a man in a suit got out of a car with the rest of a picture perfect family.

  i immediately noticed all the name tags--- and my blood pressure spiked 50pts- damn!!

  i was booked in a 4 story hotel full of jws-- the only time they took off the name tags was in the swimming pool- they were so proud of themselves.. at 6:30 am the hot water went cold in the wife's shower- what do you expect on the 4th floor when a herd of jws is trying to get ready at the same time?

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  fiddler

  You had an opportunity and bravely took it. Great job!
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  What's the Watchtower's latest view on "The End" or "The Second Coming of Jesus Christ"? Most act like its not coming!

  by MagicMItchJensen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i posted that article from the miami newspaper, others posted the united kingdom's articles on jws and isis.

  what's the official position of the watchtower about the last days, are we in them or are we going to wait another 2,000 years like the jews believe?.

  i remember arguing at work with friends that nostradamus end date of 3000 was wrong, are there other past prophets you know of who predicted the world's end past our time?.

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  fiddler

  Fisherman, the 'end' that my grandmother anticipated during the WW II days came and went. She died in 1980. The end that my father anticipated at least by 1980 came and went. He died in 2012. If JWs are still around for a bicentennial all past expectations will be long forgotten....just as you have forgotten past expectations.
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  A letter to Mr. Morris

  by diana netherton in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear mr. morris,.

  i am writing this letter to request that you have an immediate meeting with jehovah regarding the tight pants, spanx (i think you mean spandex) issues.

  it it clear from your pants rant that jehovah has focused his attention away from the billions of people currently suffering on the planet to address this specific issue.. today i observed a group of witnesses in my neighborhood.

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  fiddler

  And if spandex is not appropriate attire for they gym what, pray tell, are we supposed to wear to the swimming pool???