fiddler
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Tsarnaev guilty - should he get death or not?
by Simon ini think he probably will (it is the us after all) but i hope he doesn't.
he caused incredible pain and suffering to men, women and children who had never done anything to him.
many died in unimaginable agony, others are disabled for life.
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fiddler
I vote no death penalty. Let him grow old in prison and maybe be a voice to other young people who are thinking of making a choice like he did...don't do it! He sounds a bit contrite but he is young. If he really does 'feel' the pain he has caused then let him live with that but maybe be a voice to young people who are caught up in similar dangerous cults and ideologies. -
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How strong were you in “The Truth?”
by John Aquila inwhen you were still asleep in the watchtower organization and had no idea of ttatt.
what would you have done if you were in a serious accident and all of a sudden you woke up in the emergency hospital room with all the brothers and sisters at your side and your spouse cheering you on to be faithful to jehovah.
then the doctor comes up to you and tells you that you are about to go into surgery because there is no time to lose and the only way to live is to take a blood transfusion ?
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fiddler
I went through 4 full term pregnancies, first a C-section and also a miscarriage sandwiched between child 3 and 4. With the C-section I did state the no blood thing but don't remember signing anything. I think I left it to my husband and TBH, I am not sure what he actually would have done. I did lose a lot of blood but after the baby was out I went out. What happened while I slept I don't know and at the time I chose the don't ask, don't tell route. I was just glad to be alive.
I considered myself a 'good' witness but this was a subject I didn't want to think about the reality of...picture ostrich with head in sand. I think that is true for a lot of witnesses. They just don't like to think about the reality of needing a blood transfusion and really, most never face it. I do remember feeling relieved knowing that for my children the state would most likely take the decision out of my hands with a court order. I have carried the JW prohibition of blood with me and still feel I would only take a transfusion in an emergency but as has been pointed out, due to HIV blood transfusion is generally used only during emergencies. I am working on ridding my mind of the residual JW crap still knocking about in my head.
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RULES FOR (APOSTATE) RADICALS---ARE YOU LISTENING, WATCHTOWER?
by TerryWalstrom in.......................are you listening, watchtower?this is a time for revolution and not revelation!you claim revelation, but we claim revolution.
it shall be a quiet, methodical, and--above all--effective revolution against your revelation.. 1. know the difference between being realistic rather than being rhetorical.. _______________________.
to be effective, you must give full respect to your audience's values or else you shut down their ability to hear and listen.
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fiddler
Very good strategy and many of the points I think have been tried (I know I used some of them) but the problem for ex-JW'S outside the walls is that the watchtower leadership have pretty effectively barred the gates as far as talking to JW family and friends go. It was because many were using these strategies IMO that the doors of communication were slammed shut and very hard back in 2011. It does work and they bleeding out membership. That's when I think their campaign of hate speech began in ernest. So, that leaves this stategic attack to be waged from within the walls like the Trojan Horse and yes, there are many who are awake to TTAT but still occupying a seat in the kh. I'd say it falls on them to lay siege. -
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TERRY EXPLAINS JAZZ (to those who hate jazz)
by TerryWalstrom interry explains jazz (to those who hate jazz)_______________________________.
there are too many reasons to cite.
suffice to say, we all know annoying people.. we don't become a hermit because of a few annoying people.
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fiddler
Terry, nice post! I am a 'vile'inist but mostly a fiddler that has been called upon from time to time to play some jazz. I can usually pull off the melodic parts in a jazzy sort of way but am still a bit lost on the improv part. Jazz takes off and follows it's own rules (or maybe no rules) as far as I can tell. I tend to 'think too much' and totally lose it on the improv. I know that you need to be totally comfortable and into the music and feeling it. It's that 2 / 5 thing! It's something I still hope to be able to achieve before my life is over! I love Bach and I've been told by other musician friends that Bach knew Jazz a few hundred years ahead of it's time! Just listen to Stephan Grappeli and Django Reinhart play Concerto on D minor by Bach duet! -
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I had breakfast with 50+ JWs on Sunday
by zimunzucz inwe pulled into a hotel parking lot saturday around 6pm on the return leg of a wonderful family vacation to new england - an then fate stepped in---a man in a suit got out of a car with the rest of a picture perfect family.
i immediately noticed all the name tags--- and my blood pressure spiked 50pts- damn!!
i was booked in a 4 story hotel full of jws-- the only time they took off the name tags was in the swimming pool- they were so proud of themselves.. at 6:30 am the hot water went cold in the wife's shower- what do you expect on the 4th floor when a herd of jws is trying to get ready at the same time?
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fiddler
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What's the Watchtower's latest view on "The End" or "The Second Coming of Jesus Christ"? Most act like its not coming!
by MagicMItchJensen ini posted that article from the miami newspaper, others posted the united kingdom's articles on jws and isis.
what's the official position of the watchtower about the last days, are we in them or are we going to wait another 2,000 years like the jews believe?.
i remember arguing at work with friends that nostradamus end date of 3000 was wrong, are there other past prophets you know of who predicted the world's end past our time?.
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fiddler
Fisherman, the 'end' that my grandmother anticipated during the WW II days came and went. She died in 1980. The end that my father anticipated at least by 1980 came and went. He died in 2012. If JWs are still around for a bicentennial all past expectations will be long forgotten....just as you have forgotten past expectations.
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A letter to Mr. Morris
by diana netherton indear mr. morris,.
i am writing this letter to request that you have an immediate meeting with jehovah regarding the tight pants, spanx (i think you mean spandex) issues.
it it clear from your pants rant that jehovah has focused his attention away from the billions of people currently suffering on the planet to address this specific issue.. today i observed a group of witnesses in my neighborhood.
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fiddler
And if spandex is not appropriate attire for they gym what, pray tell, are we supposed to wear to the swimming pool??? -
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Bible Chronology, Egyptology and the Great Flood
by cappytan infact: bible chronology says the flood occurred between 2348 and 2370 bce, depending on which scholar you listen to.
fact: the great pyramid of giza was constructed 200 years before, in c. 2560 bce..
so, if you believe in a literal interpretation of noah's flood, you believe that the egyptians built a great civilization, were destroyed by the flood in 2370 bce, and then somehow, they reappeared immediately after the flood, picked right back up where they left off without skipping a cultural beat.. oh, and isn't it ironic that legitimately studying the great pyramid of giza debunks jw mythology now?
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fiddler
And then there's Gobekli Tepi....10,000 Years old! Bible 'chronology' (what a farce!) really needs some overhauling. -
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Did Jehovah's Witnesses dishonestly insert the word "Apostate" in their custom version of the Bible
by Watchtower-Free ininteresting article.
http://doctrinesoffaith.com/more-errors-in-jehovahs-witness-new-world-translation-bible/.
more intentional repeated errors in new world translation bible: a study on apostates.
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fiddler
Reading those bible verses sounds very much like listening to the words and reasoning of Daesh (ISIS).
But of course, they are both MIddle Eastern, tribal, patriarchal barbarians.
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Infuriating Elder recorded on JWStruggle
by dhlpcjw inhelp from a loving jehovah's witness elder part 1. this elder is clearly out of touch with all emotion period as this poor girl pours her heart out to him.
can these untrained, unloving, pharisees possibly be fit to represent a god of love?
a god of anything?
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fiddler
I wonder how many times this kind of call goes out to the elders? I'm going to guess that her situation is not unique. What the recording shows is that these men are not loving shepherds but corporate men through and through and their job is the cold following of bureaucratic rules.
Oubliette always says "let's review, it's a cult".
I would add: let's review, it's a business. That was an example of how a distressed employee would be handled in a corporate board room.