Jonty,
Thank you for your post. After only 3 hours of sleep last night, I needed a good kick this morning.
By the way, my wife and I love your "photo." Where can one get a copy of it in poster-size?
eyedrevil
"rewards" for faithful service sometimes used to come in the most unlikely manner.
to illustrate; the "privillege" of being a young microphone handler occasionally yielded its wholesome dividends of an unexpected nature.
for example, when i was once on microphone duty as a young aspirant ministerial slave, i was rewarded with an edifying flash of theocratic tit when a sister leant forward to give her comment.
Jonty,
Thank you for your post. After only 3 hours of sleep last night, I needed a good kick this morning.
By the way, my wife and I love your "photo." Where can one get a copy of it in poster-size?
eyedrevil
ok, this may sound silly and trivial.
but, i need to know if anyone else has had a similar experience.. as a result of facial hair (a goatee and mustache), i was relieved of my incredibly important.
later, i felt like i should send the elders a thank you note for their wake up call to the fact that i was in a very messed up religion.
finnrot,
you are so right!
oh my god!
brilliant! turned my crappy monday into a funday. THANKS!
in your congregation, did you ever have macho-wannabes on the microphones, strutting up and down the aisles handling the mikes as though they were aka assault rifles?.
we had a few tossers like this.
in fact, i might even have been one of them.... jonty
Had a few, but not me. I was deemed unworthy of the "privilege" of carrying the mike / dispenser of truth due to facial hair, so I had never had the chance to be a mike-nazi.
After the... Bible DOES state that a goatee is the sign of the devil.. let's see, what verse was that again??? Delusions 6:66? I forget, but my elders told me so, so it MUST be the "Truth".
eyedrevil
what would be the consequences to society in general?
would there be enough psychotrist to handle 6,000,000 new patients?.
would office buildings be scrambling to find new janitorial services, since all the "pioneer janitorial service" operators would find real jobs?.
6 million more voters for Bush... Oh wait a sec.... JWs ARE allowed to vote now -- my bad. Hard to keep track of "new light."
ok, this may sound silly and trivial.
but, i need to know if anyone else has had a similar experience.. as a result of facial hair (a goatee and mustache), i was relieved of my incredibly important.
later, i felt like i should send the elders a thank you note for their wake up call to the fact that i was in a very messed up religion.
Another thought about this "situation."
When the elders came to my home to explain their/ the "Society's" position on the matter, I felt as if I was in an episode of Twilight Zone, the 1984 Episode (if there ever was one). They stayed and "reasoned" with us for 3 hours. And for every one verse they quoted, we had 2 to return back
They explained that though the bible does not say anything about facial hair having anything to do with my spirituality or disqualify one from serving the congregation (see scripture on qualifications of a MS), it is the Society's/elders position to keep peace in the congregation -- and since one person had a problem with my facial hair, I should take the high road and shave it so that I would not stumble that one brother.
My question to them was at what point do I keep bending to the will of the few --- move from my nice home to the 'hood? Quit my private practice and get a job I hate? Sell my car and and buy a junked up mini-van, since my 4 door sedan is not big enough to transport a car group of 8? Wear only blue ties with white shirts, never ever any stripes? Stand on the corner in a pink tu-tu with a hula hoop around my belly, passing out WatchTowers to any passers-by? I swear, the elder who came to my home that told me, with a totally straight face, that if the Society told him to stand on the corner in a pink tu-tu, stand on his head and preach the "good news" at the top of his lungs, he would do it, no questions asked. Scary red flags were going off for me at that time.
Didn't Goerring and those lovely SS guys say the same thing -- "I was just following orders..."
Like I said before, I am so glad we are out. Glad our kids weren't poisoned too badly. They have moved on from the "shoulds" and "don'ts" very nicely. Every day is a blessing without that heavy WT burden as a frontlet band hanging in front of our forehead!!!
eyedrevil
ok, this may sound silly and trivial.
but, i need to know if anyone else has had a similar experience.. as a result of facial hair (a goatee and mustache), i was relieved of my incredibly important.
later, i felt like i should send the elders a thank you note for their wake up call to the fact that i was in a very messed up religion.
Candles,
WAY too much info!
on may 7th 2004 at 8:00 pm (est) dateline will air a 2 hour special on cults, and be featuring some survivors, as well as steven hassan, and bob and judy pardon.
set you vcr's, as this indepth cultbuster show will undoubtedly be very interesting.
this is not a jw specific show, but will include jw's, as i am told..
Thanks for the update.
Too bad so many JWs will miss it because either:
1. they are at one of their MANY meetings, or
2. they turn it off for fear it may be "apostate" -- watch out for the boogey man!!! (just like the Dateline episode which dealth with the pedophiles in the WTS)
ok, this may sound silly and trivial.
but, i need to know if anyone else has had a similar experience.. as a result of facial hair (a goatee and mustache), i was relieved of my incredibly important.
later, i felt like i should send the elders a thank you note for their wake up call to the fact that i was in a very messed up religion.
OK, this may sound silly and trivial. BUT, I need to know if anyone else has had a similar experience.
As a result of facial hair (a goatee and mustache), I was relieved of my incredibly important privilege of carrying the microphone at our ministry school and other meetings. I was also advised that I could no longer offer prayer at the congregation BS, or any other meeting, because my facial hair was stumbling some "un-named" pub in my congregation. (Frankly, I think it was my PO, but he didn't have the guts to say so...)
At first, I was shell-shocked. Later, I felt like I should send the elders a thank you note for their wake up call to the fact that I was in a very messed up religion. If one can allow themselves to get stumbled over someone else's facial hair, I think they have some bigger issues that only they can handle.
I am now free and so much happier. So is my entire family, who left the Society/ Matrix/ Organization/etc at the same time...
eyedrevil
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i remember someone asking in chat recently if there was anywhere they could get kingdom melodies midi files, well....
uuggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Oh, the flash backs. Damn You! Now I need 6 more months of music therapy.