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  End of watchtower

  by Hellothere in

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  shouldn't gb tell members to abandon organisation?

  surely things are pointing at watchtower being part of babylon the great.

  in with way is watchtower being bless and been shown god's favour this days?

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  If this was the end of the Watchtower, Lloyd Evans would be out of a job and his main source of of income would dry up.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  I don't know what the laws are like in Croatia regarding solicitation for prostitution. However, here in the USA most communities have laws on the books where both prostitutes and their customers are prosecuted when arrests are made.

  In most American cities had LE been arrested for soliciting, he would be fined or sentenced to time in jail or both. No doubt his patrons don't consider solicitation for sex to be criminal behavior.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  Not sure if this has been discussed before, but in Lloyd Evans' live-stream he claimed that the Watchtower had tampered with his sexuality, or words to that effect.

  Some have commented that LE said this to excuse his reprehensible behavior. But could his statement have a different meaning. Did LE mean that he was also a victim of CSA? And could this have been what he meant when before his Committee meeting he claimed to have something on the Watchtower?
  
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  New Translation Record as 13 Bibles Are Released in One Weekend

  by Wonderment in

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  new translation record as 13 bibles are released in one weekend:.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/global/new-translation-record-as-13-bibles-are-released-in-one-weekend/.

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  I doubt that the JW translators were proficient in the original Biblical languages Hebrew and Greek. Which leads me to believe that they merely translated the American-English version of the NWT into these 13 languages.

  So instead of a real Bible translation as they claim, the Watchtower is actually publishing a translation of their English version Bible into these languages.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  I recently visited the Lloyd Evans Channel and it looks like he has posted a couple of new videos. Though I didn't bother to watch any of these videos, I did find it interesting that the video titles indicate that Evans is switching to an "advice to the lovelorn/talk show host" format. He has nothing new or interesting to offer.
  

  Perhaps Evans will no longer produce his tedious rebuttals to the monthly JW Broadcasting episodes. After his recent confessions, it is difficult to take his critique of the Watchtower seriously.
  
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  Why do you call yourselves "apostates?"

  by Marbles in

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  well let me clarify the question.

  i know you call yourselves apostates because the bible defines people who leave their previously held beliefs as apostates.

  my question means, if the bible is not true (and i don't think it is) then there is no such thing as an apostate.i have never been a jw, only a bible student with them.

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  According to many theological dictionaries Apostasy is "the total repudiation of the Christian faith." While this term may fit a number of individuals who have left the JW religion, most notably Lloyd Evans, Apostasy should not be applied to all ex-JWs.

  For example those ex-JWs who join another Christian Church have not repudiated the Christian faith. Instead they have merely rejected some of the Watchtower's questionable doctrines and beliefs. Thus they are not apostates. According to the dictionary they are "Heretics." Of course the JW GB refuses to use that term in describing ex-JWs for obvious reasons.

  However, there is another group of ex-JWs, and this may also include some still associating. These are the schismatics. Schism in this case is the refusal of submission to the JW GB, while accepting most Watchtower beliefs. In fact there used to be a small group of schismatic JWs here in Northern California. They called themselves "Jehovah's Witnesses Independent of the Watchtower." These folks believed all the JW doctrines. However, they rejected the GB.

  Since I joined the Anglican Church after leaving the JWs, I'm a Heretic, not an apostate.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  I found Lloyd's videos entertaining and in some cases informative. Evans is a showman and his videos have provided comedy relief for some in the exJW community. But I think his Atheistic evangelism is counterproductive as far as causing JWs to question their religion.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  In his pre-disfellowship video, LE claimed he had damaging evidence on the Watchtower that he would use during his hearing if the JC would make problems for him and his in-laws regarding shunning. While I doubt that LE has anything seriously damaging to the JWs in his files, I wonder what the Watchtower has on him which could be much more serious.

  Apparently the JW leadership doesn't consider him much of a threat. Otherwise why would they let him traipse around Watchtower headquarters with a video camera while dressed like an unkempt street person? Some have even mentioned the possibility that LE is a Watchtower mole. While I doubt that the JW leadership is that sophisticated, keep in mind that GB member Splane declared war on "apostates" during his convention rant last summer. So expect them to play dirty.
  
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  Watchtower Study: How Strong Will Your Faith Be?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  the watchtower—study edition | november 2021. study article 47. how strong will your faith be?.

  16 note the example of geydi, a sister from guatemala.

  her husband, edi, was murdered as they were returning home from a congregation meeting.

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  What is with all the smiling faces at the Watchtower Study and everyone with their hand up eager to comment? In all the years I served as an elder, I never saw a Watchtower audience that looked like that. Most in attendance were bored, sleeping, or otherwise distracted and wishing they were some place else. In a congregation with 80-100 in attendance, you would be lucky to see five or six raise their hands when the conductor called for comments.
  

  The Watchtower editors advice to grieving ones, like their illustrations, shows how much the JW leadership is detached from reality.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  "Do not tell a friend anything you would conceal from an enemy."--Arabian Proverb

  Unfortunately Lloyd has given the Watchtower something to brag about. Sadly he has betrayed his family and the Ex-JW movement.

  Hopefully he will see a mental health professional and get the help he needs.