i overheard a discussion between two jws, they said that when someone is disfellowshipped, they are asked to hand their blood card back to the elders.
i had never heard of this before, is this correct?.
I agree with Blondie. This is a local issue where elders go beyond what is written.
In my experience when I resigned as an elder in 1984 and faded, I'd forgotten about the Blood Card in my wallet. It was several years after my departure from the JWs as I was going through old business cards in my wallet that I found the old Blood Card. So I removed the card and burned it.
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https://wol.jw.borg/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1960561 (substitute .borg with .org)furthermore, today in every jw publication the tetragrammaton is rendered as yhwh which is more preserved by yahweh than by jehovah..
The JW leadership probably decided it was too expensive to change their name to Yahweh's Witnesses, even though this was the more correct pronunciation of the Divine Name.
rethinking wt charity status in canada.. .
https://avoidjw.org/news/canada-rethinking-charity-status-project-straight-arrow/ .
My guess it that the loss of the Watchtower's charitable status will bring about the decline and fall of the JW organization. Without government subsidies and tax exemption it would be difficult to maintain the Borg's New York headquarters, printing facilities, video studios, translation homes, and GB members life-style.
Think about what the Borg would have to pay each year for the property taxes and assessments on the New York headquarters compound, video studios, and all the KHs. Plus most donations would be considered taxable income.
To pay for these new expenses would the Borg adopt tithing like the LDS Church? But the Mormons encourage education and many of them are professionals with a comfortable income. Since the Watchtower discourages college and university education, most rank and file JWs are working class and don't have a lot of cash to spare. So forcing a cash strapped family to turn over 10% of their income to the Watchtower could cause more JWs to lose heart and exit the Borg.
While these possible government actions might not destroy the Borg, the Watchtower's loss of charitable status would hasten its decline into insignificance.
However, to keep their charitable status the GB could come up with New Light and abolish shunning, discard the Blood Doctrine, and engage in real community service. This might keep the government subsidies, but also cause the Borg to loose control of the rank and file. It would also make the JW religion more mainline. If the JWs became a mainline church would the membership increase or decease?
Anyway these are my thoughts on a rainy Saturday afternoon.
Happy New Year everyone,
Athanasius
here is a great story about a disfellowshipped man who fought his in laws, his wife, and his wife's boyfriend, and other jehovah witnesses, in order to win custody for his son...........and won!.
you will like the outcome.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1he2emz/i_used_the_blood_shunning_issues_to_win_custody/.
Perhaps those who still attend JW services can shed some light on the subject. But I heard that in most cases, unless the congregation has nosy elders, the blood issue is "don't ask, don't tell."
Since most states in the USA have patient privacy laws, a JW who needs one can have a blood transfusion without the elders ever finding out.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
I enjoy the videos that Wally produces on JW Thoughts. He makes them not only informative, but also entertaining. So one can be informed of the latest in "Dub Land" and also get a hearty laugh or two at the expense of the GB.
Others must agree as Wally's last six videos had an average of 22K views. Interestingly JW Thoughts has only 31K subscribers.
Ex JW Caleb has also made some good videos. However, Caleb has an even smaller audience as his last six videos had only 7.5K average views, with 10.3K subscribers.
But what I found really surprising is that Lloyd's last six videos only averaged 7K views. Whereas, he has 115K subscribers.
But one has to wonder if the 115K subscribers listed on Lloyd's website is a real number. Because if one compares his total "subscribers" to the average views on his six recent videos, it looks like only 6% of Lloyd's subscribers even bothered to watch his recent offerings.
When Lloyd begs for money, he claims that he is engaged in a life saving work. However, it looks like Wally and Caleb are much more successful in reaching more people than Lloyd. Moreover, unlike Lloyd they don't demand payment for their work.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Looks like Lloyd's patron count is up to 358. It was 307 at the beginning of the month. Which means he was able to dupe 50 additional persons to support his sexual escapades.
I used to feel sorry for those who were duped into supporting this slob. But with all the information on the internet exposing the type of person Lloyd is and what he really uses their money for, they no longer have my sympathy. In fact they may very well be just like him.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Looks like Lloyd had another drop in patron support. Yesterday he had 324 paid members. Today he has 309.
apparently, the downsizing is still happening and from what i read those let go are over 50!.
sad because these people expected to be lifers.
now they have to make their way in the world at an advanced age with no education or desirable skill!..
I would hope that a few of these forcefully retired Bethelites would get a good lawyer who specializes in age discrimination lawsuits. If the Watchtower's cruel practices are exposed in the media and the courts system, perhaps the Borg will be forced to pay its terminated employees the compensation they deserve.
democrats are always harping on and on about voting rights and how the ability to vote should be easier and access unrestricted.
the most progressive ones want to allow prisoners, and illegals with no voter id the ability to vote along with the criminals, drug addicts, and uneducated low lives who already can vote.. .
after they push for everyone and anyone to be able to vote they then tell us it is a sacred privilege, a duty and honor, and a big responsibility blah, blah ect..... if it is all those grandiose things are true i think it should be harder to vote not easier.
Only the tax payers should be allowed to vote. No representation without taxation.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
I wonder what would happen if one of the elders who served on one of Lloyd's Judicial Committees became a POMO and started posting on this forum?
