Funny the guy above me really DOES think he's the polar bear.
ezekiel3
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Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by jeeprube ini once questioned my father the elder about how we really knew the governing body was the "faithful and discreet slave" spoken of in scripture.
to answer he took me to the scripture (i cannot remember which one, and am too lazy to look it up) that asks the question......."who really is the faithful and discreet slave?
".......yada, yada, yada.. that's it.
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What would you ask for?
by defd inremember when god told solomon that what ever he asked for, he would give him?
we know what solomon asked for.
if god posed the same question for you, what would you ask for?.
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You Know You Are a Cult if you...
by myself inyou know you are a redneck in a cult if you:
are cut off from your family or friends because they are considered a danger to your cult-like beliefs.
are taught everything through repetition,repetition,repetition.. are taught to fear for your life (everlasting) if you leave it.. question its teachings you are doomed.. everything outside of its organization is a tool of satan.
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ezekiel3
...are a janitor and you own three suits.
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You Know You Are a Cult if you...
by myself inyou know you are a redneck in a cult if you:
are cut off from your family or friends because they are considered a danger to your cult-like beliefs.
are taught everything through repetition,repetition,repetition.. are taught to fear for your life (everlasting) if you leave it.. question its teachings you are doomed.. everything outside of its organization is a tool of satan.
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ezekiel3
Rayvin: Check out Steve Hassan http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/books/ccmc.htm
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Recycled, retitled, ridiculous.
by robhic ini have read here how there are so few "new" items coming from the wts these days.
that most all of the books, talks, wts, meetings, conventions, etc.
are just repeats repackaged from ones gone by.
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ezekiel3
They are all the same.
The formula works like this:
Standard program repeat every year + New Theme
This year its "Godly Obedience", last year was "Walk with God", etc.
Just interweave "obedience" into the standard fare and you have a new convention!
In addition the convention talks are then printed as Watchtower studies, so your friend will not miss a thing.
Then those Watchtower studies are parcelled into the Daily Text.
Then the Daily Text is read at the beginning of every District Convention!
Ahh, the sewage cycle of this religion.
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Bowen Comments on Berry Case Again
by ezekiel3 insource: http://www.pressbox.co.uk/detailed/legal/jehovah_s_witnesses_silence_the_lambs_sex_abuse_victims_denied_apology_33373.htmljehovah's witnesses silence the lambs sex abuse victims denied apology .
added: (thu aug 04 2005) .
mind control failed to be considered by justices in appellate hearing .
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Jehovah's Witnesses Silence the Lambs Sex Abuse Victims Denied Apology
Added: (Thu Aug 04 2005)
MIND CONTROL Failed to be Considered by Justices in Appellate Hearing
In a denial of appeal Friday July 15, a the Supreme Court of New Hampshire rendered a decision for Holley and Heather Berry that found Jehovah's Witnesses not civilly liable of improperly handling abuse allegations within the church.
The panel failed to recognize the mother,Sara Poisson, was held hostage by mind control as well as coercion to not report abuse of her daughters by church mandates.
Mrs. Poisson was conditioned in an atmosphere the theology created to do exactly what the elders instructed her to do and threatened with death from God if she disobeyed.
Holly and Heather Berry stated from the beginning that the money was never the primary issue. Holding the church accountable to better protect children remained the focus of filing the civil lawsuit.
We would like to have an apology but it appears that the church was willing to spend thousands of dollars in donated funds to see that never happens. Holly commented.
The case failed because the court found no duty to report child abuse under existing statutes with the majority of judges concluding that people can be criminally charged but not sued for failing to report child abuse unless they have a heightened level of responsibility to the abused.
The judges missed a key point in that elders are considered the mouth of God when they offer advice to members, states William H. Bowen, National Director of silentlambs,Bowen went on to say,the elders assumed that responsibility when they directed Sara to NOT report the abuse of her children.
The problem continues to be highlighted at conventions being held around the world this summer entitled,"Godly Obedience",members are advised to obey elders to show their loyalty to God even if they err in their advice.
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Bowen Comments Further on Berry Case
by ezekiel3 injehovah's witnesses silence the lambs sex abuse victims denied apology
added: (thu aug 04 2005) .
mind control failed to be considered by justices in appellate hearing .
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Jehovah's Witnesses Silence the Lambs Sex Abuse Victims Denied Apology
Added: (Thu Aug 04 2005)
MIND CONTROL Failed to be Considered by Justices in Appellate Hearing
In a denial of appeal Friday July 15, a the Supreme Court of New Hampshire rendered a decision for Holley and Heather Berry that found Jehovah's Witnesses not civilly liable of improperly handling abuse allegations within the church.
The panel failed to recognize the mother,Sara Poisson, was held hostage by mind control as well as coercion to not report abuse of her daughters by church mandates.
Mrs. Poisson was conditioned in an atmosphere the theology created to do exactly what the elders instructed her to do and threatened with death from God if she disobeyed.
Holly and Heather Berry stated from the beginning that the money was never the primary issue. Holding the church accountable to better protect children remained the focus of filing the civil lawsuit.
We would like to have an apology but it appears that the church was willing to spend thousands of dollars in donated funds to see that never happens. Holly commented.
The case failed because the court found no duty to report child abuse under existing statutes with the majority of judges concluding that people can be criminally charged but not sued for failing to report child abuse unless they have a heightened level of responsibility to the abused.
The judges missed a key point in that elders are considered the mouth of God when they offer advice to members, states William H. Bowen, National Director of silentlambs,Bowen went on to say,the elders assumed that responsibility when they directed Sara to NOT report the abuse of her children.
The problem continues to be highlighted at conventions being held around the world this summer entitled,"Godly Obedience",members are advised to obey elders to show their loyalty to God even if they err in their advice.
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William H. Bowen: http://www.silentlambs.org
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What's your favorite holiday?
by Princess inmy kids occasionally ask me this.
i usually respond "christmas" because it's so cheerful and festive or "halloween" because i'm always so touched at the kindness of my neighbors.. now i say "labor day".
they are puzzled.
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Samhain
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Who has the question for baptisms, year 1974 and 1995?
by codeblue innot just the ones at the circuit assembly ....i am talking about the ones we answer directly to the elders...before baptism...and at the assem .
sorry, can't find my book from 1974 of questions for baptism or for 1995...(personal reasons) .
codeblue .
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ezekiel3
Farkel posted this: Re: 100 Baptism Questions (Actually 80 questions, allow he does not specify which book/edition)
I also have the new OD book questions (2005 version). If you want those PM me.
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named Unbaptized Publisher at the meeting last night...............
by Buck inlast nite they announced i was an unbaptized publisher.
everyone clapped and there was much congratulations from everyone after it was over.
my girlfriend has never been happier.
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ezekiel3
Okay, I'm going to get a bit personal here, so stop me if I've gone to far.
At what level of 'intimacy' is your relationship right now?
If you two are following the guidelines (and she already broke one by dating a non-JW) how can you really know each other?
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g86 4/22 pp. 11-12 How Can I Say No to Premarital Sex? ***A
MATTER OF COMMUNICATION: "By presumptuousness one only causes a struggle, but with those consulting together there is wisdom." (Proverbs 13:10) Often a couple misunderstand what each expects in terms of expressions of affection. Frequently, a man may feel that the woman expects him to initiate kissing and petting, when in reality she may not. Therefore, let the other person know how you feel about the matter by "consulting together." But regardless of how the other may feel, wisely set limits on expressions of affection. At the same time, don’t give out mixed signals. Wearing tight, revealing, sexy clothes can give your partner the wrong message.CAREFULLY
WATCH CIRCUMSTANCES: The Bible tells about a young virgin who was invited by her boyfriend to hike with him to a secluded spot in the mountains where together they could enjoy the beauties of early spring. However, the girl’s brothers found out about it and indignantly put a stop to the couple’s plans. It was not that they felt that she was immoral, but they knew the power of temptation under such circumstances. (Song of Solomon 1:6; 2:8-15; 8:10) Regardless of what reasoning your tricky heart conjures up, avoid being alone with someone of the opposite sex in a house, an apartment, or in an automobile parked in some secluded spot.KNOW
YOUR LIMITATIONS: There are times when you may be more vulnerable to sexual enticements than at other times. You may be discouraged because of some personal failure or a disagreement with others, perhaps your parents. During such times you will have to be especially cautious. Also, be careful about your use of alcoholic beverages. Under the influence of these, you can lose your inhibitions. "Wine and sweet wine are what take away good motive."—Hosea 4:11.SAY
NO AND MEAN IT: What can a couple do when emotions escalate and they find themselves becoming dangerously intimate? One of them has to say or do something that ‘breaks the spell.’ One young woman named Debra found herself alone with her date, who stopped the car in a lonely place to "talk." When the emotions began to escalate, Debra said to her friend: "Isn’t this necking? Shouldn’t we stop?" That broke the mood. He immediately drove them home. To say no under these circumstances may be the hardest thing you ever have had to do, but as one 20-year-old female who committed fornication said: "If you don’t walk away, you’ll be sorry!"HAVE
A CHAPERON: Though looked down upon in some countries, a chaperon is a must in others. "It looks as if we can’t be trusted," complain some youngsters. It’s not you that can’t be trusted, it’s your heart! Proverbs 28:26 bluntly states: "He that is trusting in his own heart is stupid, but he that is walking in wisdom is the one that will escape." Walk wisely by having someone else join you on a date. "I really respect the fellow who brings his own chaperon. I know he is as interested as I am in being chaste," revealed Debra. "It works no hardship, for when we want to say something privately, we just step out of earshot of others. The protection it affords is worth any inconvenience."The problem with JW marriages is that, if they follow the rules (above), they end up marrying someone they don't know. How can you get to know someone or have deep conversation with a chaperon watching? How do you know you will be sexually compatible if you've never even madeout?
On the other hand, if you two are human, you are probably both ignoring JW standards for dating. In this case, what does that tell you about your girlfriend's respect of her own religion?