elder david nesler was arrested in jackson california for striking his teen-age daughter (also a jw) in front of a high school.
he is currently released and an active jw member who is allowed to participate in meetings, although his status as an elder is unknown.. this was not alleged to be sexual abuse, but it does certainly call into question the discretion of this elder.
if this is what he does in public...?.
As the originator of this post I need to confirm this is a case of a JW elder and his JW daughter. Although this was not published in the newspaper (see link above) is has been confirmed through the network that I recieve most of my news from. This is solid information.
As a note: California has at least two cities with JW sounding names: Pioneer and Paradise.
elder david nesler was arrested in jackson california for striking his teen-age daughter (also a jw) in front of a high school.
he is currently released and an active jw member who is allowed to participate in meetings, although his status as an elder is unknown.. this was not alleged to be sexual abuse, but it does certainly call into question the discretion of this elder.
if this is what he does in public...?.
Elder David Nesler was arrested in Jackson California for striking his teen-age daughter (also a JW) in front of a high school. He is currently released and an active JW member who is allowed to participate in meetings, although his status as an elder is unknown.
This was not alleged to be sexual abuse, but it does certainly call into question the discretion of this elder. If this is what he does in public...?
does anyone know the latest teachings of the society on this?.
if a disfellowshipped person dies before the geat tribulation,will they have "paid the price" for sin?
or will they never be resurrected?.
The WTS is almost mute on this point. The only info that shows up under a search for "Disfellowship" and "Resurection" is the following:
*** w77 6/1 pp. 347-348 Mourning and Funerals?For Whom? ***
It would seem that this distinction could even be observed in connection with the funeral of a disfellowshiped person. A Christian congregation would not want its good name besmirched by having it associated with any to whom 2 John 9, 10 applied, even in their death. But suppose a disfellowshiped person had been giving some evidence of genuine repentance and had been coming to the meetings and manifesting a desire to be reinstated in the congregation. Then, if the elders felt that it would not disturb the peace and harmony of the congregation nor bring reproach upon God?s people, there would be no objection to an elder?s giving a talk. How are they to know whether Jehovah has already forgiven him or not, since there is some evidence of repentance? Properly, the elders may have been waiting, wanting to make sure that his seeming repentance was sincere. Obviously, each case being different, it would need to be judged on its own merits. Of course, if a funeral talk is given, care would need to be taken not to dwell on personal matters nor to make any positive statements about whether he will be resurrected. But a fine Scriptural presentation and witness could certainly be given.
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have a good independence day .
remember: stay away from ships, tea and people in red jackets.
Oh isn't this cheeky stuff from the UK lads.
hey guys, .
just wanted to take a moment to vent about my last time i ever visit to the kingdom hall.
the co was in town.
Thanks for your experience Conf. My experience as a pioneer, and I gave my all during those years, ended up something like that scene in The Truman Show where he rows out to sea and bumps into a sky-coloured wall. After so much effort to work towards spirituality, all that happened was that I bumped into the shallow facade that is the JW life. And that's the Truth.
it seemed like from what i remember the jw's were always looking into so many alternative medicines and fad diets.
and those easy money schemes, does anyone remember these?
instead of just getting a college education they spent so much time looking into job alternatives.
Ah, food at the proper time. Look what's in the new Awake regarding get rich quick schemes. I have a wild theory about this subject: JWs are easy targets for pyramid schemes and the like. Why? Look at the whole religion! A pyramid scheme is different for normal sales because you are recruiting recruiters, not just buyers of your product. Take this quote from the 22 July Awake and insert "religion" for "business":
Is someone offering you easy money or huge profits in return for an investment? A cautionary warning is this: If an offer is too good to be true, it usually is. Don't be quick to believe advertising claims and testimonials, thinking, "This is different." Keep in mind that people are not in business to give away money or to share secrets to make you rich. If someone claims to have special knowledge that will make you a fortune, ask yourself: 'Why doesn't he use it to make himself wealthy? Why is he wasting time trying to sell it to me?
Oh, by the way, Jehovah's Witnesses are also a literal pyramid scheme: reference C. T. Russel.
all my life as a jw in the us, my parents shuttled us off to the fireworks, to sit among the worldlings and the waving flags to enjoy the show.
this was an almost universal practice with elders and pioneers as well.
as a child, i always noted that what we (jws) were doing was no different than how anyone else celebrated the 4th.
All my life as a JW in the US, my parents shuttled us off to the fireworks, to sit among the worldlings and the waving flags to enjoy the show. This was an almost universal practice with elders and pioneers as well. As a child, I always noted that what we (JWs) were doing was no different than how anyone else celebrated the 4th. Now as an adult, I've been invited to a BBQ and then the fireworks by a group including two pioneers and a servant.
Anyone else recognize this double standard?
last night my mate and i read three articles from the july 8th awake on adolescence & puberty.
i vasilated between laughing my ass off and being apalled.
the first article is only a one page intro to the next two articles, it is entitled, the joys and challanges of adolescence it basically says that we are "living in critical times hard to deal with"(2tim 3:1) so this adds to the pressures on youths.
From the Awake July 8, 2004 pg 4. IMO this is supposed to show a growth spurt, what it represents to any experienced pubescent is a different spurt entirely.
i believe i finally found the perfect venue for me to picket, duluth ga, which is just outside of atlanta.the conventions there are the 2nd and 3rd weekend in august.
i know absolutley no one in georgia and there are no chances i could run into any family members there.
there are a couple of conventions before then in s.c. and johnson city tennessee, however for various reasons-monetary and otherwise i am choosing georgia.
Good luck, dress nicely and carry a big sign with a good web address in big black letters. Let their guilty consciences do the rest. Hope to see you there, I'll be the one with the badge on.
the more time that passes, the less i even think about it.
i dont really believe in it but now and again i get a nagging fear of "what if we're all wrong and it is true" and boom big lighting rods and earthquakes come and shatter us all and i think damn and i almost beat jah on this one .
its so silly i know im right about my decison to leave the dubs but they psychologicaly messed with us for so long sometimes your like woah what if theyre right!.
I think that the first time I stopped fearing Armegeddon was in 1984 when I realized that Buck Rogers had more credence then that. Just think, Ol' Buck has been asleep at the wheel of his shuttle for 20 years now, just like most JWs.
