Posts by candidlynuts

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Question : How Rich Is The Watchtower ?

by AlphaOmega in

from previous posters, we have had access to the watchtower's accounts (uk), and especially the related company (ibsa), but... apparantly accounts are not as easily available in america.. does that apply to canada too ?.

how much the organisation is worth worldwide ?how much profit the organisation makes worldwide ?.

i'd be interested to know.. thanks in advance.

candidlynuts

can someone explain what this is in simple terms please?

http://www.rediff.com/money/2003/aug/16donations.htm Foreign contributions and donations to scores of Indian voluntary organisations, religious groups and charitable institutions have touched a high of Rs 4,535.23 crore (Rs 45.352 billion), though the government has taken strict measures to check the source of overseas funds that many organisations receive.
According to the latest statistics from the Union home ministry, as many as 14,598 voluntary organisations and religious groups in India have received foreign funds worth Rs 4,535.23 crore during the year 2000-2001.
While World Vision International, a United States-based Christian relief and development organisation, is the biggest donor agency for many Indian voluntary groups, the Andhra Pradesh-based Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust is the largest recipient of foreign contributions.
World Vision donated Rs 80.43 crore (Rs 804.3 million) to the Indian voluntary groups, while the Sathya Sai Trust received Rs 88.18 crore (Rs 881.8 million).
According to a senior official at the home ministry, foreign contributions to Indian voluntary organisations and religious have been steadily increasing over the years.
"Foreign contribution to India have come under strict guidelines and rules; but we have not detected any major frauds in the past two years. We believe all this money is going for right charitable and religious purposes across the country," the official told rediff.com.
The provisions of the Foreign Contribution (Regulation) Act, 1976 regulate the receipt of foreign donations in India. The Foreign Contribution (Regulation) Rules, 1976 contain various forms prescribed for this purpose.
According to the rules, only an association having a definite cultural, economic, educational, religious or social programme, after it obtains the prior permission of the Central government, can receive foreign contribution.
The official said 22,924 associations registered under the Act are allowed to receive foreign funds.
But the latest records with the home ministry reveal that only 14,598 associations have filed returns for having received the foreign donations.
"There has been an over 20 per cent rise in the inflow of foreign contributions in the last two years," the official added.
According to the statistics:
The United States heads the list of donor countries to India with Rs 1,492.62 crore (Rs 14.926 billion), followed by the United Kingdom -- Rs 677.59 crore (Rs 6.775 billion), and Germany -- Rs 664.51 crore (Rs 6.645 billion).
The leading donor agency was World Vision International, USA -- Rs 80.43 crore, followed by Foster Parents Plan International, USA -- Rs 76.37 crore (Rs 763.7 million), and Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, USA -- Rs. 68.11 crore (Rs 681.1 million). The US-based World Vision is an international Christian relief and development organisation that operates in 96 countries.
The largest recipient of foreign contribution was Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust -- Rs 88.18 crore (Rs 881.8 million), followed Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society India, Maharashtra -- Rs 74.88 crore (Rs 748.8 million), Gospel for Asia, Kerala -- Rs 58.10 crore (Rs 581 million), and Mata Amritanandamayi Mission, Kerala (Rs 23.19 crore (Rs 231.9 million).
Among the states and union territories, Delhi reported the largest amount -- Rs 763.05 crore (Rs 7.63 billion), followed by Tamil Nadu -- Rs 649.45 crore (Rs 6.494 billion), Andhra Pradesh -- Rs 589.52 crore (Rs 5.895 billion), and Kerala -- Rs 360.31 crore (Rs 3.603 billion).

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BE SARCASTIC...YOUR FAVORITE SCRIPTURE

by REBORNAGAIN in

"ask and you shall receive.

" 1 john 3:22, .

the joke of the day.

candidlynuts

we have a little sister who hasnt any breasts....

dunno where it is , i guess i blocked it out.. i was flat chested till i had babies and my sisters LOVED picking on me about it.grrrrr

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What is a NYC lobbyist to the Watch Tower Society?

by journey-on in

jw
friends

i'm sure it's legitimate, but someone with knowledge of how things work in new york.

may be able to explain the amount of money being spent by the wtb&ts on lobbyists.

here's the link:.

candidlynuts

i've posted about this in the past. it seems that the lobbying was for real estate rezoning issues.

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Let's Keep The E-Focus on Barbara's CD - Important

by AK - Jeff in

i have been sworn to secrecy on a couple of matters that will soon be evident in this regard.

sorry to be 'cryptic' here - but timing is everything when one is trying to bring the very serious [and often ignored in the press] matter of child sexual abuse to the fore.

with barbara anderson's permission, i reproduce part of pages 66 to 68 here for discussion..

candidlynuts

Danny is the Mark Furman interview recent? I couldnt get the link to work ( my computers messed up)

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WTB&TS in Germany Gets Tithes...

by prophecor in

..... ....directly from your wallet if you are one of jehovah's witnesses.

it appears according to governmental regulations in germany allow for the fleecing of its adhereants, directly thru levies and tithes, taken from thier members wallets via the government, without having to ask, anymore.

see section ii, paragraphs 1,2 and 3 of this document.

candidlynuts

here are the paragraphs:

Section II. Status of Religious Freedom
Legal/Policy Framework
The Basic Law (Constitution) provides for freedom of religion, and the Government generally respected this right in practice with some exceptions. The Federal Government sought to protect this right in full and did not tolerate its abuse either by governmental or private actors; however, discrimination against and unequal treatment of some minority religious groups remained a problem at the local level, in part because of the legal/constitutional structure of church-state relations. The structure for managing church-state relations, established in 1949, has been gradually adapting to the country's increasingly diverse religious composition.
Religious organizations are not required to register with the state, and groups may organize themselves for private religious purposes without constraint. However, most religious organizations are registered and treated as nonprofit associations, which enjoy a degree of tax-exempt status. State-level authorities review registration submissions and routinely grant tax-exempt status. Their decisions are subject to judicial review. Organizations must provide evidence, through their own statutes, history, and activities, that they are a religion. Local tax offices occasionally conduct reviews of tax-exempt status.
Religion and state are separate, although a special partnership exists between the state and those religious communities that have the status of a "corporation under public law." Any religious organization may request that it be granted "public law corporation" status, which, among other things, entitles it to name prison, hospital, and military chaplains and to levy a tithe (averaging 9 percent of income tax) on its members that the state collects. Public law corporations pay a fee to the Government for this tax service; not all avail themselves of it. The decision to grant public law corporation status is made at the state level based on certain requirements, including an assurance of permanence, the size of the organization, and an indication that the organization is not hostile to the constitutional order or fundamental rights. An estimated 180 religious groups have been granted public law corporation status, including the Evangelical and Catholic Churches, the Jewish community, Mormons, Seventh-day Adventists, Mennonites, Baptists, Methodists, Christian Scientists, and the Salvation Army. In June 2006, after a ten-year legal effort by the Jehovah's Witnesses organization, the State of Berlin granted the organization public corporation status, but other states had not done so.

farther down in section 2:

The city-state of Berlin accorded public corporation status to the Jehovah's Witnesses in June 2006, but it was not reported in some quarters until July 2006.
i dont really understand what this means so i am posting the paragraphs and bumping this up.
the gov't takes the money directly out of your check, does it go to the gov't or does it go to the watchtower?

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What's the point of it all anyway??

by Maddie in

i am getting to wonder what the point of life is anyway.

are we just a product of evolution with the sole purpose of survival?

i feel so confused and anxious right now.

candidlynuts

it is hard. i imagine all of us that have left have felt or do feel like you do.

i think its because as witnesses we thought we had answers to every question (accurate or not)

and now we have to start from scratch and start figuring life out all over again.

just hang in there, read some philosphers maybe, enjoy the exploration part of it. you can now ask any question and search out anything you want to!

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Simple flyer I created, with permission, to distribute, EVERYWHERE!

by sf in

darn.

i can't quite recall how to submit an image from my scanner.

any help would be appreciated.

candidlynuts

if you upload to www.imageshack.us you can choose a smaller size for posting it on the board.

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Let's Keep The E-Focus on Barbara's CD - Important

by AK - Jeff in

i have been sworn to secrecy on a couple of matters that will soon be evident in this regard.

sorry to be 'cryptic' here - but timing is everything when one is trying to bring the very serious [and often ignored in the press] matter of child sexual abuse to the fore.

with barbara anderson's permission, i reproduce part of pages 66 to 68 here for discussion..

candidlynuts

bluesapphire, i think the purpose in that was to distance the elder from the watchtower headquarters, thereby attempting to protect the headquarters from any legal responsiblity or liability. using the kingdom hall phone would add a link from the elder to the headquarters.

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MY DAD MIGHT DIE DUE TO THE 'NO BLOOD' DOCTRINE

by Mary in

i don't have much time to post as i'm headed back to the hospital, but my father collapsed this morning and had to be rushed to the hospital.

in a nutshell: he needs a blood transfusion as his hemoglobin is dropping (bleeding internally), but thanks to this fucking cult, that's not an option...........he'll accept the fractions but those bastards from the blood liaison committee have already shown up to ensure he doesn't cave............... for those of you who still believe, i'm asking you to say a prayer for my dad........and if anyone from crooklyn is reading this: you better hope my father doesn't die due to your fucked up rules, .

candidlynuts

hugs and good thoughts from me too Mary.

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Let's Keep The E-Focus on Barbara's CD - Important

by AK - Jeff in

i have been sworn to secrecy on a couple of matters that will soon be evident in this regard.

sorry to be 'cryptic' here - but timing is everything when one is trying to bring the very serious [and often ignored in the press] matter of child sexual abuse to the fore.

with barbara anderson's permission, i reproduce part of pages 66 to 68 here for discussion..

candidlynuts

thats close to the pages i posted about jeff.

it continues to shock me.

since it goes along with the pages you posted i'll repost.

i posted page 68 here.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/140267/1.ashx

here barbara anderson relates an experience from page 68:

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a picture of the TELEMEMO is available on page 69 of the cd.