Maybe.
He knew something was up in 1979... but didn´t confirm his kidneys were failing until Jan 1980.
ILoveTTATT2
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I may have found a clue to Watchtower's sudden reversal on organ transplants
by ILoveTTATT2 ini have read countless times in this site and others that there is speculation that someone high up in the watchtower world required an organ transplant, and then because of that, their position that they had held since 1967 changed in 1980.i believe i have found a clue to who that person might have been.
i leave it to the exjw community to investigate further, but it's tantalizing!it is waay too much of a coincidence that:lee cordaway got a phone call in january 1980 that his kidneys were failing.
lee was 18 years old at the time.watchtower printed its "organ transplants are allowed now" article in march 1980.. january 1981: lee goes into the organ donor list for new kidneys.august 1981: lee receives his new kidney.september 1981: lee's new kidney is rejected, he has to have it removed.
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I may have found a clue to Watchtower's sudden reversal on organ transplants
by ILoveTTATT2 ini have read countless times in this site and others that there is speculation that someone high up in the watchtower world required an organ transplant, and then because of that, their position that they had held since 1967 changed in 1980.i believe i have found a clue to who that person might have been.
i leave it to the exjw community to investigate further, but it's tantalizing!it is waay too much of a coincidence that:lee cordaway got a phone call in january 1980 that his kidneys were failing.
lee was 18 years old at the time.watchtower printed its "organ transplants are allowed now" article in march 1980.. january 1981: lee goes into the organ donor list for new kidneys.august 1981: lee receives his new kidney.september 1981: lee's new kidney is rejected, he has to have it removed.
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ILoveTTATT2
I have read countless times in this site and others that there is speculation that someone high up in the Watchtower world required an organ transplant, and then because of that, their position that they had held since 1967 changed in 1980.
I believe I have found a clue to who that person might have been. I leave it to the exJW community to investigate further, but it's tantalizing!
It is waay too much of a coincidence that:
Lee Cordaway got a phone call in January 1980 that his kidneys were failing. Lee was 18 years old at the time.
Watchtower printed its "organ transplants are allowed now" article in March 1980.January 1981: Lee goes into the organ donor list for new kidneys.
August 1981: Lee receives his new kidney.
September 1981: Lee's new kidney is rejected, he has to have it removed. Lee goes on dialysis.1987: Lee starts getting (synthetic) EPO.
1994: Watchtower publishes an article saying that EPO is a conscience matter.
Circa 1996: Lee dies from complications of kidney disease.
See his life story in the Awake of November 22, 1996:*** g96 11/22 p. 11 ‘It’s Only Temporary!’—My Life With Kidney Disease ***
‘It’s Only Temporary!’—My Life With Kidney Disease
I believe that this HAS to be THE person for which the "organ transplants are now allowed" article was printed.
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New Movie, "Confessions of A Teenage jesus Jerk"
by NikL instumbled apon this.. apologies if this has already been posted.. here is a link to the trailer.... https://vimeo.com/215891572.
here is one description of the plot.... certain right wing scolds love to claim that modern life would be so much better if organized religion was allowed to exert a greater presence.
“confessions of a teenage jesus jerk” shows in one very tragicomic story how such everyday religious incursion would be a curse.. actor eric stoltz makes his directorial debut adapting san francisco author tony dushane’s semi-autobiographical novel of the same name.
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ILoveTTATT2
I just saw this movie.
Vidiot, 99% accuracy, I would say. Perhaps because of some legal issues, they couldn't call it "The Watchtower" magazine, but they called it "The Truth" magazine.
Other than that, very, very accurate! It makes sense, since the novel's author was a witness.
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Here's PROOF that Charles Taze Russell Was NOT a Pennsylvania Freemason
by AndersonsInfo inno, charles taze russell was not a pennsylvania freemason!.
this is the answer i received in a letter: .
"after a search of our records, we determined that the three russell's were not members of our organization.
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ILoveTTATT2
Ridiculous!
Why on Earth would they hide that Russell was a Mason?
You can find public information on 14 US presidents who were freemasons, you can find public information on Joseph Smith that he was a freemason, you can find public information that at one point William Miller was a freemason.
Public info that C.T. Russell was a Mason?Zero.
Why would they publicly and openly admit and not only admit but celebrate that U.S. presidents were freemasons, but have absolutely no information on the books about C.T. Russell?The proof of membership is in the Lodge records, and there have been no lodge records found of C.T. Russell being a member.
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"Gay sex is not porneia" started in 1947!
by ILoveTTATT2 inlook at this "gem"!.
it's from the november 1st, 1947 watchtower, p.336.
essentially, this is what started the doctrine that you couldn't divorce your spouse if he/she cheated on you with another member of the same sex.. this ended in 1972 with another wt article.
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ILoveTTATT2
They said gay sex by your spouse is now grounds for a scriptural divorce.
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"Gay sex is not porneia" started in 1947!
by ILoveTTATT2 inlook at this "gem"!.
it's from the november 1st, 1947 watchtower, p.336.
essentially, this is what started the doctrine that you couldn't divorce your spouse if he/she cheated on you with another member of the same sex.. this ended in 1972 with another wt article.
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ILoveTTATT2
Correction, it is 1948. So 24 years.
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"Gay sex is not porneia" started in 1947!
by ILoveTTATT2 inlook at this "gem"!.
it's from the november 1st, 1947 watchtower, p.336.
essentially, this is what started the doctrine that you couldn't divorce your spouse if he/she cheated on you with another member of the same sex.. this ended in 1972 with another wt article.
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ILoveTTATT2
Look at this "gem"!
It's from the November 1st, 1947 Watchtower, p.336
Essentially, this is what started the doctrine that you couldn't divorce your spouse if he/she cheated on you with another member of the same sex.
This ended in 1972 with another WT article. So for 25 years, many marriages couldn't be disolved without the chance of remarrying if one of the spouses was gay.
Still, to this day, there is a loophole, where two men masturbating in front of each other is not porneia.
(See https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5701492464943104/new-loophole-created-you-can-cheat-on-your-spouse-without-him-her-being-able-divorce-you) -
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New Loophole Created: You can cheat on your spouse without him/her being able to divorce you
by ILoveTTATT2 inthe new "pillowgate" video exposed a loophole in the witnesses´s thinking, showing how dangerous and stupid legalism is.. this loophole is sure to destroy many people´s lives.. 1) they said that two men masturbating at the same time in front of each other does not constitute "porneia".. 2) "porneia" is the only biblical reason for divorce.. 3) from 1) we can also get two women masturbating in front of each other, or a man and a woman masturbating in front of each other, does not constitute "porneia".4) most people would consider masturbating at the same time with another person to be cheating, and a logical reason for divorce.. so this will lead to many witnesses going to the elders and being told that they cannot divorce this person who clearly cheated on them.
then, if this person (the "innocent mate") divorces and marries someone else, then that person would be the one possibly disfellowshipped!the implications of the loophole are so stupid and so damaging!i predict another flip-flop.
"considering things more closely, this is "porneia"... or doubling down on it ("sorry but that is what the biblical limits are") or just fading away into those things that only 1% of jw´s know it´s a rule....
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Yes, but to complete the loophole, all you have to do is masturbate quickly. Lol.
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New Loophole Created: You can cheat on your spouse without him/her being able to divorce you
by ILoveTTATT2 inthe new "pillowgate" video exposed a loophole in the witnesses´s thinking, showing how dangerous and stupid legalism is.. this loophole is sure to destroy many people´s lives.. 1) they said that two men masturbating at the same time in front of each other does not constitute "porneia".. 2) "porneia" is the only biblical reason for divorce.. 3) from 1) we can also get two women masturbating in front of each other, or a man and a woman masturbating in front of each other, does not constitute "porneia".4) most people would consider masturbating at the same time with another person to be cheating, and a logical reason for divorce.. so this will lead to many witnesses going to the elders and being told that they cannot divorce this person who clearly cheated on them.
then, if this person (the "innocent mate") divorces and marries someone else, then that person would be the one possibly disfellowshipped!the implications of the loophole are so stupid and so damaging!i predict another flip-flop.
"considering things more closely, this is "porneia"... or doubling down on it ("sorry but that is what the biblical limits are") or just fading away into those things that only 1% of jw´s know it´s a rule....
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ILoveTTATT2
The new "pillowgate" video exposed a loophole in the witnesses´s thinking, showing how dangerous and stupid legalism is.
This loophole is sure to destroy many people´s lives.
1) They said that two men masturbating at the same time in front of each other does NOT constitute "porneia".
2) "porneia" is the only Biblical reason for divorce.
3) From 1) we can also get two women masturbating in front of each other, or a man and a woman masturbating in front of each other, does NOT constitute "porneia".
4) Most people would consider masturbating at the same time with another person to be cheating, and a logical reason for divorce.So this will lead to many witnesses going to the elders and being told that they cannot divorce this person who clearly cheated on them. Then, if this person (the "innocent mate") divorces and marries someone else, then THAT person would be the one possibly disfellowshipped!
The implications of the loophole are so stupid and so damaging!
I predict another flip-flop. "Considering things more closely, this IS "porneia"... or doubling down on it ("Sorry but that is what the Biblical limits are") or just fading away into those things that only 1% of JW´s know it´s a rule... -
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How much paper has the WT used to print its publications?
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i am doing a crazy stat: how many pieces of paper has the wt ever published?.
i don't have the answer yet, but.... i do have the approximate answer for the awake!
and the watchtower magazines.... get ready... it's a whopping 1.1 trillion pages!.
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Notice how the number of pages and prints per issue went down after 1975? But the downturn is nowhere near what it is now!
I´ll say it again, the internet has been worse for the WT than 1975!
About the ink and fuel, I believe that could also be estimated.