Hey, where in Washington are you from? I grew up in tacoma. I don't live in Washington now. But I go home to visit. My cousins went to the hall in Hoquiam.
Gidgetgirl
........did you experience the "love bombing" during your first year?
how did it change (if at all) after that first year?
what were your experiences?
Hey, where in Washington are you from? I grew up in tacoma. I don't live in Washington now. But I go home to visit. My cousins went to the hall in Hoquiam.
Gidgetgirl
........did you experience the "love bombing" during your first year?
how did it change (if at all) after that first year?
what were your experiences?
Not true, I am a hibitual forget to turn in my time person, and i have never even been counseled on it.
gidgetgirl
jehovah's witness across north america are being sternly counseled at this week's service meeting that they should pack lunches during the 2004 dictrict convention instead of leaving the site to eat elsewere or return with food.
in a letter read during the announcements, members are told this is a "serious problem".
reportedly jws have been banned from some convention locations because the venues want concession stand business if jws insist on bringing carry-out meals into the facility.
We have always been encouraged to pack our lunch, since packing became the thing to do. They make a point when they say if we leave then we miss out on fellowship with the brothers and sisters. Plus we went to our circuit assembly in April, and we ate out, and the place was full of cigerette smoke, and we left reaking. My 2nd daughter was so embarresed, because even though my chldrens father is not in the truth we are not a smoking family. No one at all smokes. So She was horrified.
Gidgetgirl.
jehovah's witness across north america are being sternly counseled at this week's service meeting that they should pack lunches during the 2004 dictrict convention instead of leaving the site to eat elsewere or return with food.
in a letter read during the announcements, members are told this is a "serious problem".
reportedly jws have been banned from some convention locations because the venues want concession stand business if jws insist on bringing carry-out meals into the facility.
if you think it is bs, why go?
Gidgetgirl
the apostates over at e-watchman's forum are dillusional .
first class spiritual nutjobs, if you will.
we know they do not consider themselves to be apostate, but they believe they will do the most good by staying in the organization so that when the foundations of the society are shaken, and they believe it will happen soon, they will be there to aid and comfort the jw's who don't know what to do or where to go.
I am one horrid speller. I ment dis- associated.
the apostates over at e-watchman's forum are dillusional .
first class spiritual nutjobs, if you will.
we know they do not consider themselves to be apostate, but they believe they will do the most good by staying in the organization so that when the foundations of the society are shaken, and they believe it will happen soon, they will be there to aid and comfort the jw's who don't know what to do or where to go.
You do know that no one gets das associated anymore, right? Not since 1988-89. Somewhere in there. Only if you are baptized, and gave your life to Jehovah, then if you comit unrepented sin, then you are disfellowshipped. Gidget girl.
I also want to say, that it is very scary to know that someone who is recently baptized is really an apostate. If you are waiting for people to fall to snatch them up, that's not loving. Thats sneaky. It makes for unsettling feelings. Gidgetgirl.
i've been reading the messages here for some time now, so decided it's about time i joined and said hi!.
especially hi to "littletoe" - hope you're doing well.
luv ya bro!!.
it sounds to me that you had your own issues with Jehovah. You and you girlfiend commited gross imoral sin, then lied to cover it up. You felt like you couldnt talk to anyone because you lied. But in the bible it says better to marry then to commit fornication. (in other words). So you married. Your wife also had her issues. Maybe if you had been honest you could have avoided alot of the hardship you went through. Just like King David who commited fornication, and murder. He was forgiven, but he still had to live with the consequences of his actions. He had troouble all the days of his life. But Jehovah forgave him and never stopped loving him. Just like if someone committed fornication and contracted Aids, but then came back to Jehovah. Jehovah would forgive him, but he would still have Aids. Dont blame other people for your mistakes. Maybe if Adam and Eve had both took responsability for their actions and said they were sorry, we would not be in this mess today. Eve blamed the serpent, and Adam blamed God for making Eve.
You were young. When you are young you make mistakes. It happens. I wish you would pray to Jehovah and ask forgiveness. I promise he will forgive you. read Draw Close To Jehovah, section 4. It is awesome. It changed my life. I was raised in the truth, ran away when I was 14, Had a baby when I was 16, married a man out of the truth, I really could go on... But here I am, doing what is right. When you ask forgiveness, you can not beat yourself up continuesly about it. Jehovah forgives and moves on. If Jehovah forgives us, then who are we not to forgive ourselves? Think about it and Pray to Jehovah.
Gidgetgirl.
certainly not that i would ever imply that anyone would have sinned against the holy spirit, but i was just wondering how may people either think they may have done this, or in the past thought they may have, or if they felt they were ever a victim of that wt scare tactic.
if so, did you at some point in your life feel anxiety over it?
did you ever feel anger about being misled into thinking you had when you realize now that you really couldn?t have (at least by that time)?
That is not sinning against the Holy Spirit. Jehovah knows we are imperfect. i asked an elder and his wife what that ment, because I knew that i knew what was right and wrong from the Bible and I rebelled. They told me If you truley sinned against the Holy Spirit, You would just know with out a doubt, just the way an anointed person knows that they are anointed without a doubt. If you work to hender God's will, on purpose. If you lie against Jehovah to make other people not listen to the Bible teachings, after you knowing the truth, that is A sin against the Holy Spirit. but if you were never baptized, and you are ignorant that what you are doing is wrong, then it is not a sin against the Holy Spirit. Like Paul was involved in the killing and persacution of many of Christ's followers, but he thought he was doing right. So he was forgiven and given Holy Spirit.
Gidgetgirl
your conduct, attitude, manner of speech, avatar, all of these shows what sort of hearts you people have.
i can't feel the holy spirit operating in you people.
the first time i exposed myself to apostates, i was imagining matured people, more matured than the jw's.
I have to agree. I was raised in the truth. I ran away when I was 14, because my mom was mean and strict, and never let me do anything. That sounds bad on my mom, not Jehovah. I spent many years away from the truth, but in my heart I always knew it was the truth. I never spoke bad about Jehovah, or his Word. Every congergation has many differant personalities. I knew plenty of parents in the truth that did not act the way my mom did. I am now a parent in the truth, and I am different then my mom. I learned from her mistakes. My oldest is 16, and still lives at home. I have two years on my mom. I can understand kids falling away from the truth, it happens. I have cousins who are disfellowshipped. But I don't understand why you talk bad about Jehovah. An apostate -fest. Why call it that? You are making yourselves enemies of Jehovah. Just because you feel an elder or parent wronged you. That is not Jehovah. The rules for submitting replys and comments is to not
And you have. You are bashing Jehovah's witnesses, and if others log on that do not know first hand anything about Jehovah you have incited hatered.
You talk about getting drunk and stuff. Maybe thats why you are no longer at the Kingdom Hall.
I found this sight when I punched in kingdom hall on the internet. So I also want to comment on Spankings in the Kingdom Hall. First I do spank my children. I do not beat them. But I do beleive a spanking wont hurt the situation, and it builds up that action / consequence thing. I also reward for good behavier. I have never seen anyone beat their child. But every church in the world is made up of many personalities. There is one difference between other churches and Jehovah's Witnesses. If something is a continuing habit, the offender (against the bible principles) is counseled and or disfellowshipped. My mom used to... I wont say beat, because I never had a bruise. But I was hit alot. My aunt( who is not JW) told the Elders. And the elders did cousel my mom. By then it was to late, I ran away shortly after. But they did step up to the plate. So I am sorry for people who feel they were wronged by elders or parents, But that's not Jehovah.
Pray to Jehovah and ask for guidence. He will forgive you. That was my hardest thing to swallow, how could Jehovah forgive me? But he does. I suggest reading the Draw Close To Jehovah Book. The Pioneer sister who studied with me used it. And it changed my life. Now it is the book studied at the weekly book study. Really dig into your soul, (heart) And ponder over why you feel so bitter toward Jehovah.
And for you who have never been JW, you can gripe all day, but you do not know what you are talking about, because you have not been there.
Thank you for reading this,
Gidgetgirl
my mother told me the other day that if push came to shove, she probably wouldn't go to my daughter's wedding if she knew she would be removed as a regular pioneer.
she said that pioneering was something she chose to do over the last 40 plus years.
if my daughter chose to marry an "unbeliever", then that was her decision.......obviously, some things are more important.
I think that maybe that is your mom's own decision. Not based on the Bible, or JW teachings. People are encouraged to follow their own concious in matters. What might bother one person may not bother another.
Gidgetgirl.