That's great!
HappyDad
a little bit of background (for those of you who came in late).... i used to be a jw (no joke!).
i married a jw wife.
we were married for about 20 years, and i couldn't take it anymore - since i was no longer a jw, and didn't believe in their doctrines anymore.. i got divorced in 2002. since that time, i was solo, and then met a nice non-jw woman.
That's great!
HappyDad
in the 50's, 60's, 70's, when i was an active jw, the traveling overseers both district and circuit,(before elder arrangement) came around to visit local congregations.. two points to be made about this.
when pastor russell died, rutherford wanted federal control of the varied congregations for himself.
under russell, all the groups were independent and unencumbered by an organization.
Thanks Terry for your insight. Once again, you are right on the money! Keep on posting.
By the way......your book was great reading.
HappyDad
i'm on it every couple of days and it's usually to see pics of my grandkids or to get the 411 onwhat's going on..
I'm on facebook but have no xjws as my friends. I have enough new people in my life. My biggest problem is being addicted to Candy Crush. I need a rehab and 12 step program to keep me away from it. lol
HappyDad
since jws are to be no part of the world, it would seem implausible that any witness would even talk about political preferences.. after being on this site for over a decade, it seems to me that there are a number of closeted political junkies.. were you vocal at all about politics and about the town/city/state or country that you were in?.
With my JW brainwashing I felt that politics was and abomination. But I did vote for people running for office in my Union with the approval of one of the elders who said that was an entirely different matter. In about the past 8 years I have voted in all local and national elections though.
HappyDad
my jw daughter called me this afternoon!!!!!
!i am just over the moon.
her hubby not a jw has cancer & was operated on today!!!!.
How wonderful for you Grace. I know you are elated and so am I.
Love you,
HappyDad
did someone post this already?.
the list of the watchtower farms cementery.... http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&gscid=2403939.
gorby.
Thanks for posting this Gorbatchov. A lot of names I recognize. Only one that I knew persdnally though. David Beigler (if it is the same person) was our district overseer in the Pittsburgh area in the 1980's.
HappyDad
i'm still runnin' against the wind.
i'm older now but still runnin' against the wind.
well i'm older now and still runnin'.
Thanks everyone. I'm feeling much better today. I'm most grateful that my daughter is out of this cult too. We are very close even though there is a 1200 mile distance between us. I am in the Pittsburgh area and she is in Bonita Springs. She left the religion about a year before I did. Neither one of us knew that the other was fed up and enlightened. One night when I met her for dinner I told her that I no longer wante to be a JW. She was actually elated with my statement and I gave her my copy of Crisis of Conscience. That book sealed our WT fate for good. That was about 1999.
I get down to Florida several times a year to spend time with her. She now has a career that she loves and tons of good friends around her. I'm retired but also have many worthwhile friends from all walks of life here in my area. I was in Bonita Springs for 15 days at the end of August through Sept. and loved it even though it was hot, humid and rainy. I'll be there again for Thanksgiving like always and I always go down for the Bonita Springs Blues Fest every March. A really great event!
Thanks and take care all.
HappyDad
i'm still runnin' against the wind.
i'm older now but still runnin' against the wind.
well i'm older now and still runnin'.
For some reason I'm feeling kind of blue tonight. It doesn't happen often but tonight it feels like I've been hit with a bat. This song by Bob Seeger came out in 1980 and the words really touched me. The first stanza or so of the song don't have meaning for me but the part I've posted always got to me. Even way back then, my then living wife understood what I told her about these lyrics. She was raise as a JW and had her own doubts. She saw way too much BS in the cong. and I was able to talk to her with no reservations. The times I was so fed up with the local politics and trying to fit in...she understood me. The words have so much meaning to me and I heard this song on the radio tonight and just started crying and that is way to strange for a 66 year old apostate (oops.....an awakenend ex JW who learned the TTAT almost 15 years ago) like me.
Just sharing. Thanks for listening.
HappyDad
The years rolled slowly past
And I found myself alone
Surrounded by strangers I thought were my friends
I found myself further and further from my home
And I guess I lost my way
There were oh so many roads
I was living to run and running to live
Never worryied about paying or even how much I owed
Moving eight miles a minute for months at a time
Breaking all of the rules that would bend
I began to find myself searching
Searching for shelter again and again
Against the wind
A little something against the wind
I found myself seeking shelter sgainst the wind
Well those drifter's days are past me now
I've got so much more to think about
Deadlines and commitments
What to leave in, what to leave out
Against the wind
I'm still runnin' against the wind
I'm older now but still runnin' against the wind
Well I'm older now and still runnin'
Against the wind
Against the wind
Against the wind
Still runnin'
I'm still runnin' against the wind
I'm still runnin'
I'm still runnin' against the wind
Still runnin'
Runnin' against the wind
Runnin' against the wind
See the young man run
Watch the young man run
Watch the young man runnin'
He'll be runnin' against the wind
Let the cowboys ride
Let the cowboys ride
They'll be ridin' against the wind
Against the wind ...
jws are in need of more kingdom halls in many major u.s. cities.
at this years agm where it is expected that most of the faithful will be able to listen to the meeting (being tied in by video), dont be surprised if the wts 8 gb members take part in a symposium delivering some long winded appeal, petition, plea, proposal, proposition, solicitation or otherwise hit-on the masses for $$$ in order to lighten the burden and overuse that many kingdom halls are experiencing.
an acquaintance from the west coast mentioned to me that in late august thru early september of this year that a number of pow-wows involving close to 5,000 elders from numerous areas (riverside, los angeles, ventura and orange counties) took place to drum up financial support from the 800+ (not sure) congregations in those areas.
Hmmmm.....more Kingdom Halls needed? Then why have they sold off so many here in the U.S. over the past decade or so? They used to point the finger of disgust at the huge beautiful churches of "Christendom" and the ostentatious Catholic cathedrals built over the centuries at the expense of the faithful following. Now they do the same thing with the multi-million dollar KH's that house four congs. "Give us all of your hard earned money so that we can prosper. You won't be needing the money. It will all be thrown into the streets.
Totally disgusting. Glad my eyes were opened over a decade ago.
HappyDad
a few months ago i found out mouthy lived a short drive away from where i live and we communicated by pm.
so this morning i called her and was able to meet with her for coffee.
what a pleasure it was to finally meet her.
Wow.......sounds wonderful. I wish I could meet Grace also.
HappyDad