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  Suicide Update 8-31-04 and How You Can Help

  by Corvin in

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  i have been very busy, but i am getting some sleep compliments of my doctor?s coolness.

  mary and i went to see nancy?s doctor for a long chat in which i went into a lot of detail regarding nancy?s indoctrination, her engrained fears and beliefs about, god, the bible, people and life, and how they relate to the culmination of this suicide attempt.

  i explained what being labeled "bad association" meant to her and how devastating the prospect and reality of shunning is .

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  I'm so sorry to hear of your families issues. I just wanted to mention that also on Randy's site is information relating to custody battles. I believe his site has copies of documents that are given to JW families going through custody battles telling them that it is okay to lie in court. I'm sure your attorney and judge would appreciate seeing that JWs even encourage their own children to lie on the stand. It will also help your attorney see what he/she will be up against in a custody battle with a JW. There is a lot of info here:

  http://www.freeminds.org/legal/legal.htm

  Best wishes...
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Can Go To Hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  by Big Tex in

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  i need someplace to vent, so excuse me but i am very angry at the moment.

  as most of you know, my father in law committed suicide last sunday (the 16th).

  his death hit nina hard, but i've discovered this week that my sweet little kitten of a wife has the heart of a lion.

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  Cruzan & Big Tex,

  My heart goes out to you. It is difficult enough to deal with an unexpected loss and then to have to deal with this sort of stuff... It makes me so angry to hear and read how they've treated people dealing with a loss.

  May you find some peace and comfort in knowing that you are honoring your father in the way he deserves to be honored. My thoughts are with you and your family.
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  Birthday Party Etiquette Question

  by awoke in

  1. social
  2. family

  i need some feedback.

  my son turned five years old today (yea!

  ) and due to recent financial problems, we are having his birthday party on this coming saturday (instead of this past weekend).

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  You guys are great!!!! Awesome suggestions.

  In addition, some helped me see it from another perspective. After I got to thinking about it, I think that my hubby's parents eat dinner at 5. We can't have the party earlier than 4 though, because some family members who want to attend the party work until 4. The party-goers are 4 kids and 9 adults. Food will mostly be for the adults.

  In the past, I've always provided an array of food (from snacks, to pasta salads, to a hoagie set-up for people to make their own). But this year, we are trying to keep it super simple.

  UR - Thank you for your ideas. The Dollar Store is a great idea. Thanks for wishing him a Happy B-day. He's really excited that he's now 5!

  Arch - you had some great ideas for some inexpensive dishes. We'll have to see what we can come up with. Thank you.

  Sheila - I know what you mean about how some people go overboard or all-out. We've actually done that in the past, but this year we just can't. I just don't understand my mother-inlaw sometimes. I agree with you though. If she wants to help, I have no problem with her adding something or providing a dish or two, but the way she approaches it, it's like, "Well, if you NEEED help, we can help out with food." hmmm. I just don't know how to read her sometimes. I guess it's just that all-too-common funny mother/daughter inlaw thing. Thanks for your input!

  concerned mama - I can't have it earlier. Like you said, my kids will care less about the food. Hot dogs are a good idea - easy. Thanks for your suggestions!

  jgnat - about the brother-inlaw offering to buy a turkey. lol I don't know what to say about that. Your brother-inlaw and my mother-inlaw sound a lot alike. Good for you for politely declining!

  Double Edge - That's great advice of relaxing and having fun. That's what I hope to do. I kind of feel a little awkward now after the conversation with my mother-inlaw, but hopefully I'll get over it by the weekend.

  AGAIN, thank you everyone for your feedback!!!!!
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  Birthday Party Etiquette Question

  by awoke in

  1. social
  2. family

  i need some feedback.

  my son turned five years old today (yea!

  ) and due to recent financial problems, we are having his birthday party on this coming saturday (instead of this past weekend).

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  Hi everyone!

  I need some feedback. My son turned five years old today (yea!) and due to recent financial problems, we are having his birthday party on this coming Saturday (instead of this past weekend). Most of our family is located 2 hrs away and so we prefer to have his b-day party there so close family can attend. A couple of weeks ago, my husband cleared it with his parents and we are having the party at their house.

  Because of our financial situation, we are planning on a small family gathering with cake and icecream and maybe some party favors for the kids. In the past, my mother-inlaw has always seemed to be very preoccupied with what food I will be serving at my kids' birthday parties. Today we chatted a bit and she wanted to know what details I had planned. So I told her cake and icecream and other than that, we just plan on it being like all other birthday parties we've had for our kids. She didn't seem satisfied with that answer, so I asked her, "Are there other details that you are wondering about that I didn't mention" Then she said, "well what about food?" and I responded, "well we don't know what hubby's check is going to look like this week, so we won't know for sure until Wednesday. But if it's not what we're hoping for, then we'll just stick with the cake and icecream." and then I added, "cake and icecream should be alright, right?" Then she said, "Well if you need help with food, we can help out."

  So here is my question. Being raised a JW, I have NO idea what proper etiquette is in this situation. Is food supposed to be provided at children's birthday parties? Is it REALLY necessary? The party is at 4 pm. I talked to my husband about this and he seems to think that cake and icecream (and I guess some drinks) should be fine. Is this okay? Or is it rude to only provide cake and icecream?

  I guess I don't know what kind of responses I'm going to get from a bunch of former JWs as myself. lol

  I appreciate any feedback!

  (by the way, if anyone tries to email me and I don't respond, you can try me at [email protected])
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  About Daniel Fitzwater-Exposed on Dateline

  by LFitzwater in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this is a very long story that i will try to condense.

  it will still probably be too long.

  life is good for us now that we know the real truth.

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  Laurie,
  Welcome to the board and thanks for sharing your story. I didn't think it was too long at all. It's stories like yours that shed light on just how far the JWs will go to try to silence those trying to expose this problem. I'm really sorry for all the pain you've gone through! (((hugs)))
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  Well done Silent Lambs & Dateline

  by Kismet in

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  2. child-abuse

  this was prepared and presented far better than i could have ever imagined.. to all you individuals that stood up to goliath.

  i am so proud to be in assoication with such strong people.. thank you bill for your efforts and willingness to put a name and face in front of the cameras spearheading this effort.. thank you dateline.

  is it too early to look for a sequel?

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  The show was awesome!!! Very well done!!!!!

  I've been reading all these stories the past year online and it was really touching to finally put faces to all these names and stories.

  Thank you Bill for all your work and sacrifice and thanks to everyone who came forward to tell their story!!!
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  TR, Do You Want to Re-new Your Subscription?

  by TR in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  said the two older "sisters" at my door not more than one hour ago.. a nice conversation ensued that left them not able to answer questions, and had them falling back to the tried and true 'hovah belief that "we have the truth" b.s.. i swear that i could actually see the mental blinders closing over their eyes as i explained things they did not know.

  frustrating, yet very predictable.. they had the balls to say not to believe everything i read!

  i ask them the same question about their religion.

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  I can't believe you were able to touch on so many topics! Did you invite them in or were you able to keep them on your porch that long? I wonder what those ladies said when they got back to their car-group. (lol) You did good!
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  Reintroducing myself...

  by awoke in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i post rarely and had been posting under my first name for the past year.

  after i registered last year, i came in contact with a friend who is an active jw.

  because i do not want to lose contact with the family, i've selected a name that isn't so obvious (in case anyone in this family happens to lurk and put 2+2 together).

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  Thanks Simon and Mimilly!

  We actually have an attorney, but there's not a whole lot he can do since the state we live in is an "at will" employer - meaning they can terminate for whatever reason they want. We're doing what we can though.

  We are just taking it one day at a time, but I just hate being in this situation. It's kind of scary knowing that we currently have no income coming in.

  Thanks again for the nice welcome and words of encouragement!
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  To My Mother

  by MrMoe in

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  2. friends

  at about 6:30 this evening my mother passed away.. .

  the best mother and the best wife anybody could ever be blessed with.

  she was not only my mother, she was my friend.

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  awoke

  Amanda,

  I'm very sorry for the loss of your mother. The tribute to your mom brought tears to my eyes. May you find comfort in knowing that you gave your mom the love from a child that every mom hopes for. If my children are there for me in my final days as you were for your mom, then I know I'll leave this world peacefully.

  My thoughts are with you.
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  Shunned from Sister's wedding reception CONCLUSION

  by Quotes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for part 1:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=23578&site=3.

  for part 2:.

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  Quotes,

  I was really suprised reading your post the other day. Your conversations with your mom sound really similar to what would go on between my mom and brother.

  My brother was DFd when I was 17 and he would call over to the house and have long discussions with my mom. My brother's DFing really affected her and she hated her family being torn apart. She too would have to abruptly hang up with my brother when my dad got home. But I really believe that those conversations opened her eyes some and it wasn't long before she was approaching the elders regarding certain subjects. She has been out for over 10 yrs now.

  I relayed your story to her and she was surprised at the similarities as well. She wanted me to tell you to "keep it up!" Your mom is listening probably more than you think!