Axelspeed

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  Watch Tower sues Quotes for $100,000 plus plus plus...

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  Axelspeed 20 years ago

  You may transfer all the SOFTWARE and all Printed Materials to another party who is one of Jehovah’s Witnesses

  
  

  
  Just make sure you have access to the printed material or scans therefrom. There is a difference between software and the printed material therefrom and published bi-monthly paperback journals.

  all Printed Materials to another party who is one of Jehovah’s Witnesses but only if that party accepts all of the terms of this Agreement

  ...if this refers to the mags, JWs unknowingly violate this themselves every Saturday morning. Do they ask if the other party accepts the agreement? If referring to printouts, see the above.

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  Watch Tower sues Quotes for $100,000 plus plus plus...

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  Axelspeed 20 years ago

  Are they going to start suing people who go door to door but don't put in a field service report?

  ...or sister elderly pioneer doing street work who is trying to get rid of...I mean place some of those stacked up in the closet, 2 year old, moldy, old light issues.

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  Watch Tower sues Quotes for $100,000 plus plus plus...

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  Axelspeed 20 years ago

  btw...if i have further thoughts I will share them privately through pm...I think the good suggestion was made that it would be wise not to reveal strategy.

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  Watch Tower sues Quotes for $100,000 plus plus plus...

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  Axelspeed 20 years ago

  As I read it, this is a bunch of legal sounding smoke...because I just don't see a legitimate basis...at least one that makes sense.
  

  1) The CDs are not sold (wink) so there can be no monetary harm.

  2) The CD itself is a replication of previously printed public documents...which were not sold (wink) but distributed.

  3) The reference about the intent to embarrass is purely speculative, especiallly since these are direct quotes from there own literature, with no commentary.

  4) The only way to prove that intent is to show that the quotes are taken out of context or are complete mis-quotes. Do you think they really want that? In that case the worst thing they could do is go to trial.

  5) They do not want to make this a discussion of doctrine, but in order to prove the claims of harm they would ultimately and inadvertantly be exposing those very doctrines. Not whether the doctrine is true, false good or bad,....but whether they did in fact print what is now only being quoted....from documents that they themselves printed and distributed freely.

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  Watch Tower sues Quotes for $100,000 plus plus plus...

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  Axelspeed 20 years ago

  paragraph 31 for an interesting, and bizarre claim: the Watch Tower's books and materials "embarrass[es]" the Watch Tower!

  ...And that's what really gets under their skin. They are trying, but they can't run from their own words fast enough! Axelspeed

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  Watch Tower sues Quotes for $100,000 plus plus plus...

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  Axelspeed 20 years ago

  This is laughable! There is no way they really want this. In the long run they will be damaged considerably if this gets out as you couldnt buy this kind of advertising. My bet is that they are hoping you feel the Goliath bearing down and tuck tail and run.

  The main issue seems to be the CDROM issue, which can be easily rectified, as all the information has been printed. Secondly, you are only quoting, and not reproducing complete works. I don't think they have a case, and are depending/hoping on the intimidation factor

  What this really exposes is the effect the internet is having...it has been devastatingly effective.

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  Barbara Bush: Hurricane victims better off, were "underpriviledged anyway"

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  now we know where gw gets his "compassionate conservatism" from:.

  hurricane katrina victims in houston, texas were "underprivileged anyway" and life in the astrodome sports arena is "working very well for them," former first lady barbara bush says....

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  Axelspeed 20 years ago

  I agree that her statements lacked empathy, but from what I hear she is a nice person.
  Check the following link for another unbelievably insensitive statement at about the 1:40 mark. Morgue town braces for wave of coffins
  Sorry I cant get the link to work, but it's on the cnn.com main page under relief and rescue.

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  Does anytone 'wince' when they hear people talking about God/Jesus etc?

  by PaulJ in

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  20 years ago

  i went to a born-again christian church wedding a couple of weeks ago.

  in so many ways it was like a kingdum hall.... and the person conducting the wedding was jesus this jesus that..... i just want to roll my eyes.. i think its because i been preached 'at' so much in my life as a dub i dont want to hear it anymore.

  maybe im getting my head round the idea that beliefs and worship are best kept to yourself..... anyone else feel like this?

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  Axelspeed 20 years ago

  Yes I do. And I cringe and look for a way to get away before I say something too off the cuff. I do for my own reasons believe in some form of a higher power, though I'm not sure most religions understand, or are willing to admit to, perhaps an alternate view of the true nature of such a being.

  If I ever have dealings with a "religion" in the future, it will be for social reasons only. I will make my own conclusions and decisions about my relationship with and how I view this "higher power", and live with the consequences of it. Anything short of this higher power communicating from a burning bush to me personally is a waste of time.

  JWs have completely ruined god-talk/organized religion for me for probably the balance of my lifetime. Even if Christianity is the way, the JW brand of it has turned me off.

  I think that on some levels it could be argued that JW theology is actually anti-Christian.

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  ABC Interview with Bryan is now online...

  by Bryan in

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  20 years ago

  all 11 minutes of it.. abc interview.

  also, i realize those of you using firefox cannot scroll the webpages.

  i know what the problem is, but am looking at other ways to fix it, because i like the way it works on internet explorer.. thanks,.

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  Axelspeed 20 years ago

  Great interview! Axelspeed

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  Asembly drama

  by lamb_neo in

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  20 years ago

  those of you who have been to this year district conventions know that during the drama timothy's friend ionatan was telling him about their plans to go and study in athen.

  i keep wondering how watchtower dares to say such lies.

  where did they find this in the bible?

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  Axelspeed 20 years ago

  I went to see the education angle and you are right, it was a buch of fiction wrapped around a couple of bible characters. Just pulled a story right out of the as$. And the JW lingo was incredibly ridiculous. It's hard to believe so many really swallowed that stuff.

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