I can't even be bothered to type all the contradictions in this guy.
Axelspeed
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Royal Commission Live Hearing Now
by LostinJapan inwednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.
case study 29, july 2015, sydney.
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Royal Commission Live Hearing Now
by LostinJapan inwednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.
case study 29, july 2015, sydney.
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Axelspeed
This is actually therapeutic...We are to be in fear of the government placed there by God and simultaneously believe that they are under Satan to be destroyed at Armageddon. I see why I was so screwed up. -
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Royal Commission Live Hearing Now
by LostinJapan inwednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.
case study 29, july 2015, sydney.
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Axelspeed
These guys, Stewart and McClellan, are good. -
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Branch Service Department Manual approves appointing Child molestors as Elders
by stuckinamovement inhttp://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=7ba22716-556c-43c2-9fc6-76697afad440&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0001.004.0076&fileextension=pdf
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Axelspeed
I've been away from the whole JW thing for a while, but I truly do not understand their reasoning here...it makes absolutely no sense and is a totally unnecessary self-inflicted wound . I obviously have no proof, but from the outside this really smells of hiding deeper secrets very high in the food chain by persons who were in the past involved in some very nefarious things and now hold critical positions. Just my opinion. -
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Rodney Spinks' Performance
by maksutov init seems like there has not been as much discussion here about the rc testimony on day 6 (4th august) as there has been about previous days.
i was quite surprised by rodney spinks' testimony, which was a marked contrast to the bungling and inarticulate testimony of the elders that appeared before him.
spinks seemed reasonably co-operative, and a lot more willing to concede points than anyone else has been.
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Axelspeed
OC - *even a queen can fall with a well placed pawn and a knight moving in sideways...
I completely agree. Legal, in an effort to protect their master, have to smile and take their licks too. They are saddled with protecting a King (the GB) who is inept with delusions of grandeur and terrible policies. They are forced in a sense to prop up this figurehead (and I would even suggest begrudgingly at times) because without the GB there is no need for their existence.
Getting the King = Game Over
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Rodney Spinks' Performance
by maksutov init seems like there has not been as much discussion here about the rc testimony on day 6 (4th august) as there has been about previous days.
i was quite surprised by rodney spinks' testimony, which was a marked contrast to the bungling and inarticulate testimony of the elders that appeared before him.
spinks seemed reasonably co-operative, and a lot more willing to concede points than anyone else has been.
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Axelspeed
I actually had the opposite reaction to Spinks as well. He showed all the right gestures, and conceded a few points with an affirmative reaction or a nod of the head, but if you listen closely, everything was carefully couched in terms and words that obfuscated. He said on several occasions that he could go only as far as the Bible would let him. Well, who exactly determines the interpretation and correct application of scripture for all JWs, including the Branch? The Governing Body. It's that crazy brand of JW circular reasoning at its best. So Bro. Spinks is left with the choice to either 1) align his conscience to the correct way of thinking which involves having a bible-trained conscience as interpreted by the GB, or 2) going rogue and ultimately suffer the Ray Franz fate (branded an apostate and disfellowshipped), or be "re-assigned".
Ultimately, these guys are all pawns and pieces on a chessboard with one goal - protect the King (the GB as a group). As one caveat, even an individual GB member can be relegated to pawn status if he dares step out of line and becomes a threat to the GB or their sworn god, the WT org. The elders who were first rolled out first in this whole thing are the lowly and over-matched pawns in all of this. The Spinks guy is a little higher up the chain, a lot more slippery, and closer to the King. He was able to put his words together a little bit better, thus probably why he has made it up the chain as far as he has to the elevated and lofty Branch level. But make no mistake, behind all the smiles and shows of humility he is still ultimately just a Yes man there to protect the King, and to fall on his sword if need be just like everybody else. If he (The Australian Branch) is told he has to comply with notifying the authorities in all cases, then he will probably immediately do that because WT has already acquiesced on that front and given him the go-ahead. However, if the authorities tell him that they have to abandon the 2 witness rule, you had better believe he will need HQ (GB and Legal from NY) approval to even sniff at agreeing to that. And then you have the other powerful and increasingly influential piece on the board, the queen (WT Legal). All of these guys will do whatever they have to protect the WT, which coincidentally involves protecting the King (GB) from outsiders, and even himself.
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Axelspeed
It is so apparent that these guys so enjoy being such big fish in their own small legalistic pond SMH. They need to get out of the business of playing detective and leave it to trained grown-ups with real-world legal authority. -
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Axelspeed
Exactly Ex Bethelite Billy. Just like their reference literature is confusing, so is the whole religion...they've always had a hard time deciding whether they were a New Testament religion or an Old Testament one.
So they've settled for there own brand of Christianity applied with an archaic Judaic mentality.
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Axelspeed
to disagree with the GB would be apostacy...he is trying to walk a very fine line here.
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Axelspeed
...if they don't stray as determined by the Governing Body.