Posts by Axelspeed

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Mandatory reporting and misprision

by Xanthippe in

day 7 of the australian royal commission has chair justice peter mcclellan raising the point that i have been wondering about all along, which is, how can these elders not report child abuse to the authorities especially when a full confession has taken place?.

justice mcclellan asked toole, the wts's lawyer, if he is aware that there is a difference between an organisation being required to have mandatory reporting of child abuse to the authorities and misprision which is the concealment of a felony, itself a criminal offence?

toole says he is aware of it now but he wasn't before!

Axelspeed

It is mandatory to report allegations of abuse. The JWs do not do even that. They investigate and collect all those intimate detils about minor sex, first. And then they deal with the crime.

Very good point.

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Mandatory reporting and misprision

by Xanthippe in

day 7 of the australian royal commission has chair justice peter mcclellan raising the point that i have been wondering about all along, which is, how can these elders not report child abuse to the authorities especially when a full confession has taken place?.

justice mcclellan asked toole, the wts's lawyer, if he is aware that there is a difference between an organisation being required to have mandatory reporting of child abuse to the authorities and misprision which is the concealment of a felony, itself a criminal offence?

toole says he is aware of it now but he wasn't before!

Axelspeed

I find this interesting as well given their requirement for fellow believers to always report serious sin to the elders or bear the consequences themselves (Leviticus 5:1). Couple this with their insistence that they that they take so seriously the principle of "being in subjection to the superior authorities" as god's agent in punishing law-breakers (Romans 13:1,2), and it defies logic and the common sensibilities of most people and seems at best criminally negligent that they are not more-forthcoming and proactive in going to the authorities.

These guys, Stewart and McClellan, are good.

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Branch Service Department Manual approves appointing Child molestors as Elders

by stuckinamovement in

http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=7ba22716-556c-43c2-9fc6-76697afad440&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0001.004.0076&fileextension=pdf

Axelspeed

I've been away from the whole JW thing for a while, but I truly do not understand their reasoning here...it makes absolutely no sense and is a totally unnecessary self-inflicted wound . I obviously have no proof, but from the outside this really smells of hiding deeper secrets very high in the food chain by persons who were in the past involved in some very nefarious things and now hold critical positions. Just my opinion.

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Rodney Spinks' Performance

by maksutov in

it seems like there has not been as much discussion here about the rc testimony on day 6 (4th august) as there has been about previous days.

i was quite surprised by rodney spinks' testimony, which was a marked contrast to the bungling and inarticulate testimony of the elders that appeared before him.

spinks seemed reasonably co-operative, and a lot more willing to concede points than anyone else has been.

Axelspeed

OC - *even a queen can fall with a well placed pawn and a knight moving in sideways...

I completely agree. Legal, in an effort to protect their master, have to smile and take their licks too. They are saddled with protecting a King (the GB) who is inept with delusions of grandeur and terrible policies. They are forced in a sense to prop up this figurehead (and I would even suggest begrudgingly at times) because without the GB there is no need for their existence.

Getting the King = Game Over