They say the branch can "mold the process to the individual case" Lol wow, but they don't mention the fact that no real change will come in the process without the direction from NY, and ultimately the Governing Body...Listening to this obfuscation makes me so glad to be out.
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[Day 4 - 31/7]The Royal Commissions investigation of child sexual abuse within Jehovah’s Witnesses. + VIDEO
by C0ntr013r inby popular demand i give you day 4, and i will finally get a couple of days to sleep .
part 1 has been uploaded and part 2,3 and 4 will soon be available.. part 1:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lmlcdqesa0&list=plpq6kz-aghvqbadlzmqn26dvmpzddxlui&index=11.
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Vidiot: You think they may have had coaching from helpful XJWs?
That would definitely explain a lot. With that being said I'm equally impressed by their restraint in not over-reaching and being tripped through over-eagerness. As they have demonstrated, there is more than enough evidence there to methodically hang the WTS with piece-by-piece.
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[Day 4 - 31/7]The Royal Commissions investigation of child sexual abuse within Jehovah’s Witnesses. + VIDEO
by C0ntr013r inby popular demand i give you day 4, and i will finally get a couple of days to sleep .
part 1 has been uploaded and part 2,3 and 4 will soon be available.. part 1:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lmlcdqesa0&list=plpq6kz-aghvqbadlzmqn26dvmpzddxlui&index=11.
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Stewart and McClellan have been great and on target. For not ever being JW's they have more than in any case or argument that I've seen before, totally captured and channeled the JW tone, the unwritten double-speak, and the JW-isms. Usually the WTS is able to squeeze out on some technicality or have some prosecutor who hasn't taken the time to understand the real JW culture...and all the unwritten and implied stuff. But these guy's are no-nonsense and leaving absolutely no wiggle room. I'm impressed by their preparation. Any future prosecutor should study this hearing, as I believe they are shining light on the path for future cases. -
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Nine Seconds that says it all. Have these elders any shame?
by Wasanelder Once inwhat can i add?
this says it all.. elder on stand is mute till prompted.. .
i guess i could encourage you to watch to the end and a guest commentary, lol..
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So sad. I don't feel sorry for the guy because of his history with this particular case, but in a general sense as an ex-elder I do sort of feel sorry for the guy. He is ill-equipped, way over his head, and It's been a long time, if ever, that he's had a fresh independent thought of his own. He has never ever even considered the angle being presented, and it shows. -
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Will Child Abuse Issue Keep Growing Like A Forest Fire?
by OnTheWayOut ini don't know if a commercial will come up and i can't find this on youtube as it is probably copyright material or i am just not in a good search pattern today.
anyway, try to view this if you haven't seen it:.
https://rutube.ru/video/0ba7a3ee7e89dbbc730c4af32032e33b/?ref=logo .
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Young Girl Exposes Jehovah's Witnesses at school video goes VIRAL last 2 days 273,000 views
by Watchtower-Free inoriginal thread here.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/291080001/brave-high-school-student-exposes-abuse-corruption-within-jehovahs-witnesses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdvt_gyq-ls.
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Haven't been on this site in like, forever...but saw this on YouTube and wanted to say very brave and moving of this young lady. I wish her all the best. -
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What Happened at Watchtower in 2001?
by Marvin Shilmer inwhat happened at watchtower in 2001?
... the 2001 blood card that wasthen wasnt.. .
i have added a new article addressing a unique event that occurred in year 2001 involving a change watchtower made on its no-blood cards, and then changed back.
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One-time poster now-occasional lurker here.
I remember this clearly, and yes it was a major deal for me. I was still in at the time, but not happy at all with elder jwlife. I was the elder assigned to give the *blood* talk that year and was already having a problem processing the logic/thinking behind the whole thing, as this was the first time I actually had to try and explain the unexplainable in a SM part. The cards in my hall were already passed out (prematurely), and only later (the next meeting) were we told by the PO to destroy the cards.
To tell you the truth, I didn't even notice the wording change, until they made a big hubbub about destroying the card, and then I looked at it more closely, ...and then I knew something was very wrong. I still have the card somewhere.
Shortly thereafter, they made some changes the the new (reworked) worship book and that was it.
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New Light on Prayer in NOV 15 WT Study Edition
by lepermessiah ini finally saw that november 15th wt article on prayer that everyone has been talking about - the people in the photos look as stiff as corpses!.
people will be called in the back room for inadvertantly making contact with their spouse during prayer.. i think i will adopt the following stance during prayer now:.
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This is the most idiotic thing I've seen in a while. While it may be old light to some, I have never ever seen this put in print like this and accompanied by a picture, and I have been around for a while. I stand corrected if it has. Talk about self inflicted wounds.
It will be very interesting to see how this goes over in the spanish speaking congs as culturally they are very family oriented, and very embrace/hug oriented as couples and with the kids from what I observed. It will also be interesting to see how the younger jw couples (post 2000) who have very little experience in reading between the wts lines react to this. I have been to a meeting or two for family, and I can tell you that where I visited it was striking how much hand holding, arms around the waist/shoulders was happening esp with the 30 and under crowd.
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the high cost of divorcing a JW............
by oompa indivorce is hard for everyone, unless the person is just jumping for joy to get out it.....but even then it can be rough....and you lose half your assets.....some people stay in bad marriages just because they can not afford to be divorced........ but esp if you are a born in jw.....you know what is so unfair compared to normal non-jw divorces????
?....what is so fukkin unfair?!?
!.......that you lose all your friends and family!!!!
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Axelspeed
I have no special insight or advice to offer except to say that youre not alone. I am a recently divorced born in who was in exactly the same situation you are in. In order to keep my sanity I had to get to the point consider everything pretty much lost as every friend and family that I have known. I had to come to a point of acceptance. I would say the low point came when it was my family and childhood friends who came and helped her move her things, as my young nieces and nephews stood in the distance, forbidden to say a word.
I didn't mind that so much, because she was a great person and even today even I would help her in any way I could. But as they all laughed and chatted on the front lawn, not one word was spoken to me except the occasional no eye contact "excuse me" as the furniture was packed into the moving van. There was no telling what kind of scoundrel and lowlife my neighbors must believe me to be to have my family and friends come to assist her while saying not a word to me. It must have looked awkward and strange. I would have tried to explain about jws and all, but what would be the point. So now I live as my own cheerleeder, my own friend, and the person who tells me that I'm not the evil person every person I have known believes me to be. I will never forget that day.
So now I have to make a conscious effort to get out, meet people, learn how to make friends and how to be a friend. If I could offer one observation, the experience will definitely show you that you are a stronger being than you ever thought you were or needed to be, and that is the case whatever you decide to do. To make it through leaving the jws for any person is a courageous and extraordinary thing. As a born in, to lose friends and family and to start over, that makes you a special person. You will find your way. This too, shall pass.
PM me if you need.