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  If the Watchtower crumbles will God survive?

  by truth_about_the_truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i found this interesting essay at http://www.jwinfoline.com/documents/watchtower_organization/if_the_wt_crumbles_will_god_survive.htm that i would like to share:.

  the dilemma .

  what happens when an organization claiming to be the only ones who speak for god has its veil pulled back so that many, perhaps for the first time, see the fallible humanity behind the claim?

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  vitty

  I myself am having real problems trying to divide the WT and God, even saying Jehovah brings me instantly back to the org.

  I realize now that whatever relationship I had with "jehovah" was that he was the author of the WT. and that was my problem. I sometimes detested the mags, laughed at the study books (especially the Isaiah crap) So when I did that I felt I was scorning God, and so felt evil, I always prayed to God the same pray " please help have more faith, what is wrong with me, help, help, help"

  I do believe in God, I just dont know him and never have.
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  A possible reason WHY, the 'New System' was never a Reality to us.

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  perhaps i'm wrong, but this is a possible explanation.i was always taught that a new system would soon replace the old one.

  in this new system there would be no more war, everyone would eat from his own 'fig tree', they would build houses and love one another.. .

  in every publication that depicted this new system.....it was a picture of a beautiful lush productive earth, people were carrying baskets of vegetables and fruit walking together being of different decent, the men were bulding houses with smiles on their faces, and the children were playing with the animals.

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  Yeah speculation was BAD.

  I read a story on another site, about life after armageddon

  It was really good, it talked about how the elders where bossing everyone about,asigning pple to clear up the rotting bodies it was really how you could imagine it to be, TERRIBLE

  There was agood twist in the end as well, if I find it again Ill post the details
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  Simple ignorance

  by hillbillygal in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ok, i have browsed through the jw sites & guess i am missing it, what is the big controversy about jw?

  i simply do not know, i have heard it called a "cult" and understood that they did not believe that christ is our savior.

  i know they are an organized religion, not a "cult" i just haven't ever learned enough to know.

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  vitty

  They do not believe that Jesus is their mediator, that privlige is only for the 144,000

  Although not many realize this, in one WT it depicts God as our GRANDFATHER go figure that one

  They think the faithful and discreet slave, this includes the governing body at headquarters are the Gods only channel of comunication. They will deny this, but its there in the mags and books

  Dont let your son become insnared by them

  I was in for over 20 years and finally got out last year, now I fear I will be shunned by the remaining ones of my family, who are still in even though I have done absolutly nothing wrong. Even by their rule book

  This family may be sincere and truly genuine, but the religion isnt
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  The Watchtower - Making the case for social responsibility

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  over the last couple of years, much has been said about the charitable status of the watchtower bible & tract society.

  it seems to be more and more the case, that the watchtower is a taker and not a giver.. .

  they claim to be modelled after the 1st century christian congregation - yet they can't perform even the most basic of charitable works.

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  vitty

  This is a very important subject

  If it where proved that the WT is not really a charity, it would have huge ramifications for the WT to continue as it does.

  Maybe thats where the battle is?
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  I Made Some Placements!!!!

  by DocHayes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for the past few weeks at work, i've been talking with a co-worker about my life as jw, and the doctrine.

  he was fairly interested since he had studied the dubs in the past.

  during one of our discussions about religion, we got on the subject of revelation.

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  vitty

  I remember placing that book, well my partner did

  We where really shocked when the householder said she would be really interested in reading it.

  Anyway we charged for lit then, so there she was scrabbling about looking for money i think about £2.50

  she was looking in her car for loose change when i said to my partner oh just give it to her she obviously really wants it she replied "if shes deserving shell find the money" I was gob smacked and really embarrist

  I was really enthuiastic then but a little bit of my heart grew cold
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  Now German WTS has access to Registry Office

  by GermanXJW in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today, a german radio station commented on the court case won by jw in germany.

  they now have to recognized as a public body which has mainly impact on taxes.. .

  but the radio station also commented that now jw have access to the regitry entries of each citizen at the registry office.

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  vitty

  In Britain any one can go to the library and find out where anyone lives. I know cos I did it, with a sister looking for anyone with a foreign name so we could call on them, and those who where constant not at homes we could look up the adress and find out the name then ring them up, or write them a "personel" letter. Its the same kind of thing as a registry, you must complete a form every year to vote

  I feel quite shocked now that I actually did this.

  So, really no one can hide in Britain!!!
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  Desperate Housewives is back...

  by TresHappy in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  with all new episodes!

  let's go back to the good ol' days when they filmed 30 episodes per season.

  it was great!

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  vitty

  I saw the very first show last night, I dont think my husband will want to watch it though.

  I can see a fight on my hands
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  A very disarming question you can ask jw's as an "unbelieving mate"

  by Check_Your_Premises in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my wife got dunked, so i am an "unbelieving mate" (ubm).

  however that name does offend me.

  i do believe in god, and i am deeply grateful for christ's sacrifice.

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  vitty

  I cant believe sincere can have a girlfriend outside the JW faith. He would be marked pretty pronto !

  I have a friend whos been marked for a couple of years shes been terrible treated or should i say bullied.
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  Are "Apostates" Running The Watchtower??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for example.....no more parking fees at conventions (due to the "apostates") , resigning as an ngo from the un, etc.....do you think "we" are running the watchtower??

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  vitty

  There is a down side too. They can publish a defence on something that the dubs may not know about at this moment. So when something is disclosed the dubs dont listen to the "lies" cos theve been previously warned about it.

  I was also wondering if the stuff about DFs inactive ones was due to the fact many of us talk about succesfully fading, and then trying to warn our families. Maybe they are trying to head us off at the pass, so to speak.
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  just a question?

  by lilbit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  im noticing something reading the post about things up at bethel.

  whats the deal with so many of the old bethelites having so much money.

  being at this site has made me remember my first marriage.

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  vitty

  If you ever want to off load, this is the place to do it.

  Many here have difficult stories, at least you know youll be understood, not judged and at last say it like it really is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!