i was reading on the web about gays and jw's.
first of all i am gay.
i am not saying i am sorry as i don't feel there is anything bad about it.
A number of years ago a couple of guys I knew from a congregation in Houston were convicted in the gay-bashing murder of a gay man on Westheimer. They denied they were there, but one of them had the dead guy's wallet in his room.
The comical thing was that in the talks around the time when this incident was mentioned, there was no "Hey, it was wrong to murder this guy", it was all about how bad association gets you into situations you shouldn't be in.
i personally don't care what anyone else believes.
i believe that there is a creator that created the heavens and earth.
i believe that it occurred over a period much longer than 7 literal days.. here's my problem.
I personally don't care what anyone else believes. I believe that there is a creator that created the heavens and earth. I believe that it occurred over a period much longer than 7 literal days.
Here's my problem. Why is it that my children (or anyone's for that matter) HAVE to be taught evolution when there are more holes in the evolutionary theory then in a block of swiss cheese. There is no absolute proof of evolution. According to Communist News Network, uh, I mean, CNN poll, 83% of Americans believe in either creationism OR intelligent design. So why should our children be taught something that less than 20% of the country actually believes?
Oh, I know why. Because a bunch of left-wing Karl Marx wanna-bees control the education system.
as a jw on the field service did you ever find people that were afflicted by very difficult or even dramatic situations and problems?
was it possible to help them?
After we left the door, the elder counselled me that if she really wanted to learn about Jehovah, she would have found 20 cents and paid for the mags, and giving her the 5 bucks was a mistake because now she would think that all dubs would give her a donation.
Yeah, now the society is out $5.20 - her $0.20 and your $5 that you SHOULD have given as a donation.....
i can't stand it i got to post.
the grand canyon actually disprove creationist because granit rock is the toughest of rocks found on earth.
the grand canyon has areas filled only with granit rock.
Guess I didn't respond because:
a) Your post didn't make any sense
b) I don't know what 'granit' rock is....
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this was a post in the "friends" section but i think it's important and a really good idea.. but it's gonna get washed away by other topics... .
how about every lurker on here and all others spreading the news that unhappy jw's worldwide are to do a general boycott of all jw related activities (meetings, fs, etc) in for the entire month of february 2006. would be interesting to see what happens to the us average publishers for that month... come on just be irregular for one month!.
Yadayada,
Yeah, I see that now. Good point. I thought after initially reading it was just for those on the board who are still active to not go. Makes more sense the other way, though....
let's say you go back to your hometown for a family funeral.
you're not df'd or da'd, but most haven't heard from you for many years.
you know you'll get the inevitable "so are you going to meetings?
I agree w/ Billygoat. I used to use that all the time when I'd be cornered by my parent's friends, or people I hadn't seen in a while. It wasn't that I cared what they thought of me, but out of respect for my family who was still going, I'd use the "I live in ____ now." Most witnesses aren't smart enough to catch the drift that you don't actually go to the meetings anymore. I mean, how could you be happy, right?? ;-)
The only time you really get nailed with this one is when the town you live in has multiple congregations and they ask "Which hall do you go to?" That's when you conveniently see someone you need to go talk to.
Overall, I agree that it is way tasteless for them to even ask, but then we are talking about JW's.....
i have a friend who backed out of scientology way back when hubbard was still alive.
we go to lunch together quite often here at work.
we have often commented about the great similarity & difficulty between breaking away from wt and from the scientologists.
Has anyone seen the South Park episode where Stan is supposedly the reincarnation of L. Ron?
I tell ya, if anyone ever comes to me again with a religion that 'they and they alone know the way to salvation', I'll probably pop them in the eye. Is that like the tell-tale sign of a cult?
that is kinda goofy.
he says it is his job to protect us!?
by taking our freedom and privacy away?
ha ha ha ha haSomeone from the cult of Texas defending Bush.
Too funny.
Simon, Why are you laughing? At least I'm not paying 60% income tax and suffering from socialized medicine....oh, and btw, there are plenty of Bush-haters in Texas as well.....
that is kinda goofy.
he says it is his job to protect us!?
by taking our freedom and privacy away?
Ah...Bush haters vs Bush supporters.....is there any better debate?
Six of Nine....
Obviously we DON'T have an effective means to spy on foreigners OR domestic terrorists. Proof? Two places - Oklahoma City and New York City. 'nuff said. However, you are so right. I do NOT want a Hillary or John Kerry with unlimited domestic surveillance policies. Nor do I want a George Bush with unlimited abilities. The problem I see is that Congress and politicians in general are too skittish when it comes to domestic survelliance because they are too worried about hurting someone's feelings or being perceived as 'racist'.
I just don't think it's all that big a deal. It's like getting upset with Nixon or Clinton for lying - they all do it, these guys just got caught. My point is that it happens every day, has happened every day for years, and we are not unduly infringed on. Bush just got caught - that's all.
Why aren't people up in arms about things that truly do take away our freedom. Like the IRS being able to seize anything they want, any time they want, even if it is THEIR mistake. Or the very loosely applied drug seizure laws that harm law-abiding citizens every day. Or the 'imminent domain' laws that allow the government to seize private property with little or no compensation when they want/need it?
that is kinda goofy.
he says it is his job to protect us!?
by taking our freedom and privacy away?
"I'll be your huckleberry"....great movie.
Believe me, I'm all for freedom and as little government input into our lives as possible.
Question - do you personally know anyone, or have heard of anyone 'innocent' being put into a 6x9 cell as you put it because of domestic 'spying'? No? Well, that's my point. I don't think of tracking American 'citizens' of foreign birth who have ties to terrorists as DOMESTIC spying anyway. Just because they claim to be citizens, when they begin to act in accord with foreign terrorists, then 'spying' on them is more of an international issue anyway.
I think it's comical how people are overreacting to this. We're not suddenly in the former USSR. We're not in Saddam's Iraq. We still have our freedom, liberty and pursuit of happiness. I just think as a country that we need to realize that we may have to hurt some people's feelings in order to maintain a safe environment.
