richard bach is a good author - have you read "One"? I haven't read Illusions...I'll hafta ck it out...
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It was all a lie!
by Tower Man inwhat would you do if you woke up one morning and realized that everything you've been taught, everything you've known, everything you've thought was truth was not?
as a matter of fact, everything was a lie.
and this lie was taught to you by the people you love most in the world, your parents.
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It was all a lie!
by Tower Man inwhat would you do if you woke up one morning and realized that everything you've been taught, everything you've known, everything you've thought was truth was not?
as a matter of fact, everything was a lie.
and this lie was taught to you by the people you love most in the world, your parents.
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Reminds me of that movie "The Truman Show" with Jim Carrey.
so sad, so sad...
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East cong. Fayetteville NC
by DIAMOND inanyone out there remember the old east congregation in fayetteville.
this was way back in the 60's and 70's.
they were the black congregation and the west was for the whites.
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I lived in Fayetteville from '77 til '87, but not in the East congregation. We were in Southwest Congo. I may remember some names if you threw 'em at me though....
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Governing Body Summoned For Jud Hearing
by silentlambs inservice committee .
25 columbia heights
brooklyn, ny 11201 .
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This is one hellacious thread.
My viewpoints have been stated numerous times throughout this post already. I'm not sure what Bill's vision is, but I know that this letter will not have an effect on the GB. If this battle is going to be won, it's going to have to take place in the courtroom.
I just don't think the media or any current JW's care enough to pursue a debate/trial over BB's wrongful DF'ng. If there are any allegations against the GB re: sex abuse, they need to be brought before a court of law and taken from there. Who knows - the names of several "heavies" could be on the list of 23,000 we've all heard about. That would definitely explain the borgs endeavors to keep it under wraps.
That's where the battle needs to take place.
I pray for all children who have suffered, and I also pray that nobody is using the child molestation charge as a way to get at the Borg, for as much as I disagree with a lot of their practices and beliefs, it's not right to falsely accuse someone of something as serious as this. Even if they deserve it.
May justice prevail. Many lives have been ruined, families torn apart - how long will this continue until the general public really understands what's going on in the lives of the people who knock on their doors every Saturday morning??
peace,
jason
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Very Important Question
by FiveShadows ini was very freaked out about this little ...epiphany last night...wondering if anyone else figured this out or not?
your in a room, you see two doors.
one in front and behind you.
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Are you tripping?
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More Silentlambs Pics
by jst2laws ini will try to come back later and give editorial comments.
a familiar family.
group growing as we get ready.
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Amazing.
Seeing those gates again for the first time in 4 years turns my stomach in knots.
I used to catch those paddywagon's to and from Patterson all the time.
Memories......
*sigh*
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Who else went sex crazy?
by buffy inok, question for all the non dubs.
am i the only one who went totally wild (sexually) when i got df'd?
well, i actually went wild when i turned 21 and became inactive.
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Awww man! This was my first troll experience. I couldn't help but relate to the way Sword was talking in circles without ever really answering a question. (relate in the sense of hearing the same type of circular reasoning from current dubs)
How is it all Witnesses reason the way they do? How can they overlook things that are so plain to everyone else in the WORLD? You don't wait for Jehovah in the case of a murder, so how is child molestation is any different?!?! It's a CRIME for God's sake, not some petty sin.
The rule should be: If a brother or sister is accused of molestation, the matter should be turned over to the authorities IMMEDIATELY.
The END. They're trying to be the police in this regard to protect their asses, and it's going to come back and haunt them. It already is.
so sad, so sad....
in regards to sex, i went a little wild, but not much. I'm in my third serious relationship in 4 years, so i didn't have much time to play around a whole lot. It's all good though, I'm happily in love and more than satisfied!!! In fact, my neck hurts right now....
(yes, that's why)
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speaking of which....
by back2dafront in.
hey vivamus, i must say that the most beautiful women i've ever seen were in the netherlands.
blond hair, blue eyes all over the place - amazing!
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Hey Vivamus, I must say that the most beautiful women I've ever seen were in the Netherlands. My my MY! Blond hair, blue eyes all OVER the place - amazing!
So how could one see more of what you look like??
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Elders... Examples to the flock?
by Kagloo ina friend visited us today... it took about five minutes before we were having a general moan about the ways things are!
anyway.. these friends of ours were telling us about the things that go on in the families of elders in various congregations and how these guys are still in office.. .
now i thought that if you were 'appointed' it meant that you had god's blessing and approval... but how does that work out if you are allowing unscriptural things to go on in your own family and yet you are still in office?
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The organization is full of HYPOCRISY.
"Do this, don't do that." Everybody knows the rules, few obey them 100%, yet they're all "saved" just by being affiliated with the organization.
They're always so quick to judge others. The elders are quick to take sides and obviously don't always make the right decisions, yet this is "God's arrangement" so we're supposed to follow them regardless. I've heard so many stories of how people have been done wrong, yet i've NEVER heard of judicial cases that were later on proved to be incorrect and the person reinstated...?? I'd love to hear one if there's one to be related. Just like all the people that were disfellowshipped after oral sex was deemed a sin - how many of them were reinstated years later when "the light shone brighter" and it was up to the individual?? Yeah, like they'd proactively seek out all those that left and try to work with them to help them come back.....i doubt anything remotely close to that happened, but if I'm wrong I'd LOVE to hear about it.
Everything is so status-oriented. Being a servant or elder or circuit overseer, and even for sisters, a wise, spiritual brother will look for a pioneer etc...they're all status symbols to show others how spiritual you are, which can easily be faked. (speaking from experience) (I was spiritual and still am, it was just easy to lead a double life).
"I'm the ultimate spiritual person." (hold nose in air)
I can say this because I was caught up in it. It was cool! Being a Bethelite was almost like being a movie star. People give you mad props - all the girls want to meet you and talk to you....it was such a trip! From a Witness point of view, it was definitely commendable on youths parts to not get caught up in the bad things of the world, but geez....there's a ton of Witnesses out there that are just as spiritual yet do not qualify for Bethel, and they get NO PROPS.
In the end, it's not going to matter what religion you belong to, what rank you hold or how many people you've told about God. It's all about the right heart condition, which ties in hand in hand w/ Jesus' message. Forget all the rules and focus on loving one another and God. I mean, what religion can really claim they have 100% of God's holy spirit, direction and blessing??? If I were God right now I don't know if I could pick any Religion and say "these people have my blessing." I know I'd be able to pick certain individuals out of all religions based on their heart condition, but I'd NEVER consider blessing one particular religion over the rest of the world. Just seems like common sense to me. ?? How can I condemn Varsha from India for not being Christian and/or a JDub when he's not had any exposure to Christianity? How can I condemn any American who doesn't want to be Catholic or JDub because they've heard of all the sexual abuse amongst the LEADING OFFICIALS OF THE ORGANIZATION?! They're the ones supposed to be setting the example. It just can't be that simple, and I don't know what it will take for people to understand that.
I've heard so many elder stories where they do not look out for the interests of the woman of a house. That disturbs me deeply. It actually pisses me off to be honest. I hate the way society looks down on women - I thought the borg was above this but obviously I'm wrong.
It's a constant battle not to get depressed over this. Sometimes it gets the best of me. I'm thankful for my girlfriend - she's the only one that continues to encourage me and support me. It's really frikkin hard sometimes.
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Blacks in concentration camps
by sableindian ini know jehovahs witnesses have expressed various people who were in concentration camps.
i have never seen in print their acknowledgement of blacks being there.
although blacks, in their publications of being in the camps, mention jehovah's witnesses.
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I'm shocked to read some of those quotes coming from articles as late as the 50's and even the 70's. CRAZY.
And that's the first time I've ever heard of having children with charactericstics of the country they're born in! That's the silliest thing i've heard all day! hahahaha