I am sorry but that is a part of history I am unfamilar with. I am not a history scholar by any means...so can you please point me to a link with some info.
the links narkissos posted are a very good place to start. there are several websites and books out there of how, why and when the different canons were compiled. by no means was it a clear decision wheter a book was included or not.
some words to search for: "apocrypha", "pseudepigraphia", "nag hammadi", "apostolic fathers"
i'd gladly discuss this topic in a new thread.
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How did they dare?
by Narkissos in.
this is a very simple question which came to my mind shortly after i broke free from the jw/fundamentalistic mindset.. assuming (1) that "god" didn't do and say everything that the bible texts record him doing and saying, and (2) that the writers were not cynical, machiavelical atheists forging a "god" for the sole purpose of mind control, but really believed in their "god", the question is: how did they dare make their "god" speak and act?.
this question, of course, is pointless to you if you believe (1) that "god" did do and say everything that the bible texts record him doing and saying, or (2) that the writers were cynical, machiavelical atheists forging a "god" for the sole purpose of mind control.. but if you are somewhere in between, as many of us are (i think), this is a fascinating question which can help us get a better idea of the true nature of faith, between passive "fear of god" and the audacity of literary creation.. any taker?
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Do you believe that "all men are created equal"?
by nicolaou in"we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
even leaving god and religion to one side, are all humans born equal?
certainly not in their circumstances, but what about potential?
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i am more equal than you are
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How did they dare?
by Narkissos in.
this is a very simple question which came to my mind shortly after i broke free from the jw/fundamentalistic mindset.. assuming (1) that "god" didn't do and say everything that the bible texts record him doing and saying, and (2) that the writers were not cynical, machiavelical atheists forging a "god" for the sole purpose of mind control, but really believed in their "god", the question is: how did they dare make their "god" speak and act?.
this question, of course, is pointless to you if you believe (1) that "god" did do and say everything that the bible texts record him doing and saying, or (2) that the writers were cynical, machiavelical atheists forging a "god" for the sole purpose of mind control.. but if you are somewhere in between, as many of us are (i think), this is a fascinating question which can help us get a better idea of the true nature of faith, between passive "fear of god" and the audacity of literary creation.. any taker?
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They would be anyone who claimed to be inspired by God to write scripture pass the discipes of the 1st century!
ah ok. maybe you'll be surprised about this, but "they" did. there were lots of sacred scriptures out there until the roman church had enough influence to select only those they liked. -
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How did they dare?
by Narkissos in.
this is a very simple question which came to my mind shortly after i broke free from the jw/fundamentalistic mindset.. assuming (1) that "god" didn't do and say everything that the bible texts record him doing and saying, and (2) that the writers were not cynical, machiavelical atheists forging a "god" for the sole purpose of mind control, but really believed in their "god", the question is: how did they dare make their "god" speak and act?.
this question, of course, is pointless to you if you believe (1) that "god" did do and say everything that the bible texts record him doing and saying, or (2) that the writers were cynical, machiavelical atheists forging a "god" for the sole purpose of mind control.. but if you are somewhere in between, as many of us are (i think), this is a fascinating question which can help us get a better idea of the true nature of faith, between passive "fear of god" and the audacity of literary creation.. any taker?
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BUT they didn't...WHY?
who's they?
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How did they dare?
by Narkissos in.
this is a very simple question which came to my mind shortly after i broke free from the jw/fundamentalistic mindset.. assuming (1) that "god" didn't do and say everything that the bible texts record him doing and saying, and (2) that the writers were not cynical, machiavelical atheists forging a "god" for the sole purpose of mind control, but really believed in their "god", the question is: how did they dare make their "god" speak and act?.
this question, of course, is pointless to you if you believe (1) that "god" did do and say everything that the bible texts record him doing and saying, or (2) that the writers were cynical, machiavelical atheists forging a "god" for the sole purpose of mind control.. but if you are somewhere in between, as many of us are (i think), this is a fascinating question which can help us get a better idea of the true nature of faith, between passive "fear of god" and the audacity of literary creation.. any taker?
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Why not go on with the story and add more books?
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How did they dare?
by Narkissos in.
this is a very simple question which came to my mind shortly after i broke free from the jw/fundamentalistic mindset.. assuming (1) that "god" didn't do and say everything that the bible texts record him doing and saying, and (2) that the writers were not cynical, machiavelical atheists forging a "god" for the sole purpose of mind control, but really believed in their "god", the question is: how did they dare make their "god" speak and act?.
this question, of course, is pointless to you if you believe (1) that "god" did do and say everything that the bible texts record him doing and saying, or (2) that the writers were cynical, machiavelical atheists forging a "god" for the sole purpose of mind control.. but if you are somewhere in between, as many of us are (i think), this is a fascinating question which can help us get a better idea of the true nature of faith, between passive "fear of god" and the audacity of literary creation.. any taker?
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that question is not only about the bible. lots of ancient texts have their god's talking and giving orders. dagon talked as much as jehovah. the popol vuh has dialogs of mayan gods. greek mythology got lots of godly words.
but it doesn't even stop at religion. just take flavius josephus. he's written down lengthy discourses of long gone people he never had contact with. there's no way he could have known what the jews in massada talked about before their suicide for example. nevertheless he recorded detailed discussions of how they might have taken place before the event.
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Chewing Gum at KH
by stillajwexelder inthe elders frown upon chewing gum at the kingdom hall and we have had a locals needs part where it was mentioned.
is/was chewing gum at your hall a no-no?
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Is/was Chewing Gum at your hall a no-no?
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Police caution woman for breastfeeding in public!
by nicolaou ini just watched the local bbc news and there was a story about a woman who'd fed her baby while sitting on a public bench.
she finished and was on her way when a police car drew up beside her and asked her to stop.
there had been a complaint.
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I'm always flattered if someone asks to see mine.
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"Knowledge" studies - still in use?
by Trinitarian in.
can anyone confirm that the knowledge studies are still in use, and haven't had any recent major revisions (last couple of years).. i've written some analysis of these studies and wanted to make sure the source, knowedge that leads to everlasting life, is current.. .
thanks!
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yes it is. there might have been some minor revisions though.
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Police caution woman for breastfeeding in public!
by nicolaou ini just watched the local bbc news and there was a story about a woman who'd fed her baby while sitting on a public bench.
she finished and was on her way when a police car drew up beside her and asked her to stop.
there had been a complaint.
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It's also MY right to have a nice meal without seeing a woman's boob across the aisle for a long length of time.
that pretty much depends on the shape of the boobie... ;-)
but really, what's so disgusting about boobies? i don't get it...