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  Famous JW's (or exJW)..an almost complete listing.

  by badwillie in

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  famous jehovah's witnesses

  dwight d. eisenhower - u.s. president (raised jw) .

  venus and serena williams - world chamption/olympic gold medalist tennis players .

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  jaredg

  hold up....so the wayanes bros. are JWs...damn i didn't know that

  We also have a poster who was on Girls Gone Wild, but I shouldn't say who.

  oh oh oh please do tell...i have all of the GGW on DVD...pm if necessary
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  the returning ... a question for thos raised in hell (whoops "the truth")

  by Odinseeker in

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  2. experiences

  i was just wondering for thos that have been raised within and then were df'ed ... did you return before giving it up for good?.

  i grew up with the terror of post vnam and 1975 being the end or the end being just around the cornor, i was df'ed, thought long and hard.

  and returned anyway.

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  jaredg

  i was raised in the truth 5th generation. after i got disfellowshiped i still thought it was the truth but i lived in sin so i didn't try to get reinstated. after me and my gf broke up i tried to come back after a year of being df'd but now i sat in meeting from a different perspective. by this time i had many friendships w/ "wordly" people and i found that these friends truely loved me. setting in the meeetings and listening to all the negativity and generalizations made about wordly people made me sick. then i started to have doubts concerning some JW doctine i.e the blood issue. i realized it wasn't for me, started doing my own research and thinking for myself. i stopped going to meetings and haven't looked back.
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  Pyramids vs the Flood

  by ezekiel3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  historians and scientists agree: the egyptian pyramids were built between 2500 - 2100 bc.

  we even have some astronomical evendence that this is true: http://www.robertbauval.com/articles/gpdating.html.

  jws teach that:the flood occured at 2370 bcestimates that the tower of babel was constructed around 2189 bcjoseph was sold into slavery 1750 bc (eventually to eygpt, already established as a world power).

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  jaredg

  This is an intresting topic. I haven't ever given much thought to WT chronology besides the whole fall of Jerusalem thing in 607 CE. However what I have always wondered about concerning the Flood and the story of Noah is how in the hell did he get all those animals and plantlife in the Ark? When I was a JW I just tried to ignore it but now I realise that I can stand on my own reasoning so I have concluded that the Flood never happened. The chronology presented in this thread had confirmed my belief.

  Thanks!!
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  Growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness (My Life Story)

  by m0nk3y in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.

  i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.

  this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.

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  jaredg

  Josh,

  That was a very touching story. I have nothing aganinst gay people but I don't associate with many gay people. I only have a couple gay friends. I want to thank you for your story because that is the first time I have been told what it's like to be homosexual. I'm sure words really can't express the amount of pain you endured. Thanks you for your insite. I believe it helps me to be a more compassionate person.

  I also want to commend you on your strength! In fact everyone on this board who has left the organization has had that moment where they had to be a strong person and just do what they had to do. I did, you did and many other people have. Once you make that move things get a whole lot better. Good luck!!

  Jared
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  Is the very concept of THE TRUTH the reason cults can exist?

  by zen nudist in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  considering that all availible evidence points to the understanding that everything we know is our own mental inventions, symbols our own minds have made... maps of an implied territory, representations, not substance, how can we be sure of anything that arises in our minds at all?

  it seems the best we can say is that there is some stability and consistancy to some of the things we experience and some of our beliefs seems useful a lot of the time... but the truth?

  what can one use as a standard for the truth?

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  this is from the "Cult Test" 100 questions to answer is you think you might be in a cult.
  

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  14.Dogma, Unquestionable Dogma, and Sacred Science.The cult has lots of it to teach you. Dogma can also be defined as doctrine, beliefs, convictions, teachings, precepts, or tenets. And they are all true, always. No critical questions about the leader, doctrine, or policy are seen as legitimate, "because God gave our leader these teachings, so of course they are absolutely right and infallible. Anybody who criticizes our leader's teachings must be an agent of Satan."

  "Unquestionable dogma" is also called "Sacred Science", which is one of Robert J. Lifton's Eight Conditions of Thought Reform. The cult's "truth" is the absolute truth, sacred and beyond questioning. The cult's laws, rules and regulations are absolutely correct, always, and therefore to be followed automatically.

  There is a reverence demanded for the leadership. They have ALL of the answers, they say, and only to them is given the revelation of "truth". The ultimate moral vision becomes the ultimate science and the person who dares to criticize it is considered immoral, irreverent, and "unscientific".

  more can be found at http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-cult_q0.html#cq_guru_right
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  Fault in human DNA strand?

  by El blanko in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi there - i'm sorry if this is off topic slightly, but i need information.. i am not learned in this area of science and wondered if it is true that there is a fault within human dna that science assumes is the reason we break down and die and are unable to explain.. forgive my ignorance here.

  this question spins off from a conversation i had this afternoon with an ex-jw who wishes to get back to the kingdom hall and was using this argument to present his ideas to me.

  i told him that i was not aware of this particular area of study but would look into it for him.. i am assuming that he read this in an awake article maybe?.

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  hmmmm....i don't think that there is a fault in the human DNA. any fault would technicaly be a mutation. i have heard (discovery channel baby) about certain genes that scientists are studying in animals that live very long like turtles and animals that regenerate like some worms to try and isolate this gene and then introduce it into mammals and later humans to see if it can lengthen life. i'll talk to my friend who is a zoology and anthropology major and see if he has heard anything about faults in human DNA. but just a quick question...if being mortal is due to faulty DNA does that mean that everything on earth has faulty DNA?
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  Opinions on a letter i am sending my family

  by jaredg in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey guys.

  both my mom, dad and sister have asked me to write them with my reasons and concerns for leaving the wts.

  this is what i wrote them.

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  jaredg

  originally i wanted to give it a week but last night i really couldn't sleep because of thinking about his letter and my own convictions. i kept going over and over in my head what to say and i just had to had to write the letter at that moment.
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  Opinions on a letter i am sending my family

  by jaredg in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey guys.

  both my mom, dad and sister have asked me to write them with my reasons and concerns for leaving the wts.

  this is what i wrote them.

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  jaredg

  i just wanted to BTTT this thread b/c i think this is the best letter i've written yet.
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  Opinions on a letter i am sending my family

  by jaredg in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey guys.

  both my mom, dad and sister have asked me to write them with my reasons and concerns for leaving the wts.

  this is what i wrote them.

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  jaredg

  thank you. i felt that arguing over details wasn't getting anywhere so i just decided to write how i felt. maybe my family will understand.
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  Divorce rate of JW's less than the rest of the "world"??

  by Samdownunder in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  throughout my teen years when my doubt was high and my hesitancy to commit was even higher, my father always told me that no life in the world could ever compare to life in the "truth".

  he said the peace and joy jw's experience in their lives is better than anything i could find out there in "satans world".

  he also constantly threw out the statistic( as he is a bullshit artist) that witness marriages have less than a 5% divorce rate, as compared to 50% outside the "truth".

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  jaredg

  they divorce rate is lower but the number of people in a an unhappy marriage is higher