this seems to be a pretty comprehensive study:
Ageing Through The Ages
http://mac-huwis.lboro.ac.uk/ASL/Publications/PDFs/Ageing%20through%20the%20Ages.pdf
doogie
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Did our ancestors really live for hundreds of years?
by pennycandy infor all you scientific brains out there .
.. the bible claims lifespans of over 900 years.
what does science say about this?.
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Did our ancestors really live for hundreds of years?
by pennycandy infor all you scientific brains out there .
.. the bible claims lifespans of over 900 years.
what does science say about this?.
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no
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Will humanity EVER outgrow God?
by nicolaou infirstly let me say that i am not trying to offend believers - i was one for most of my life.
nor is this a discussion about whether god/religion is a 'good' or 'bad' thing, that argument will rage forever.
what i'm asking is really a simple question;.
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Doogie - did you listen to what I was saying - I see a trend - in my life in my real world experience . That isn't sitting on some convenient internet site for me to spool out to you.
Since you seem to want to play let me give you some sites that offer some statistical points - you could have found these - though I don't see how they would affect what my or your personal experience is.
jeez, man. calm down. i'm just trying to help you out here. no one, and i mean NO ONE will take your arguments seriously if all you do is make assertions without backing them up.
and yes, you're right i could've found those sites, thank you for not making me search out references for your assertions. that is very kind.
the whole point of surveys and statistics is that yours and my own personal experiences are completely subjective and in no way representative of the whole. that's why stats are necessary when making broad claims.
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Will humanity EVER outgrow God?
by nicolaou infirstly let me say that i am not trying to offend believers - i was one for most of my life.
nor is this a discussion about whether god/religion is a 'good' or 'bad' thing, that argument will rage forever.
what i'm asking is really a simple question;.
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1 - less love for neighbours - far more isolation from each other.
2 - reliance on debt as a life style choice coupled with reduction in work ethic amongst many
3 - the rise of the irresponsible - it wasn't my fault culture.
4 - the rise of it was your fault culture - where's my lawyer
5 - lack of care about family - so few are even bothered by the idea of family break up as its so normal - until it happens to them.
6 - Increasing numbers of kids with multiple transient fathers and substitute dads (latest cohabiting partner)references, please.
otherwise it's like saying that because its dark at night and also there are more murders at night, murders cause darkness. besides the fact that murders can't be proven to directly affect luminance (similar to saying 'no religion causes nos. 1-6'), if you can't prove your assertion that more murders actually DO occur at night it renders your argument even more feeble.
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Zerubbabel's Temple
by myelaine inyou therefore, son of man, prophesy, and strike your hands together.
the third time let the sword do double damage.
it is the sword that slays, the sword that slays the great men, that enters their private chambers.
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we ain't done
for some reason this reminded me of the simpsons where they are trying to go to Branson Missouri but accidently go to Bronson. all the Bronsonites look and talk like Charles bronson and this little kid says to his mom, "Hey ma, how bout a cookie?" ans she says, "No dice." so he says, "dis ain't ovah." so, see? turned out reading this thread wasn't a total waste of time after all!
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Will humanity EVER outgrow God?
by nicolaou infirstly let me say that i am not trying to offend believers - i was one for most of my life.
nor is this a discussion about whether god/religion is a 'good' or 'bad' thing, that argument will rage forever.
what i'm asking is really a simple question;.
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i found this quote from eminent evolutionist and VERY vocal atheist, Richard Dawkins that seems to have something to do with this subject:
i'm sure with just a small amount of effort it would be easy to show that "survival of the fittest" is hardly an acceptable (or accepted) 'lifestyle' even in the atheistic community."What is the purpose of life?" already has a straightforward Darwinian answer and is quite different from "What would be a worthwhile purpose for me to adopt in my own life?" Indeed, my own philosophy of life begins with an explicit rejection of Darwinism as a normative principle for living, even while I extol it as the explanatory principle for life.
This brings me to the aspect of humanism that resonates most harmoniously for me. We are on our own in the universe. Humanity can expect no help from outside, so our help, such as it is, must come from our own resources. As individuals we should make the most of the short time we have, for it is a privilege to be here. We should seize the opportunity presented by our good fortune and fill our brief minds, before we die, with understanding of why, and where, we exist. http://www.simonyi.ox.ac.uk/dawkins/WorldOfDawkins-archive/Dawkins/Work/Interviews/1997-winterhumanist.shtml
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Will humanity EVER outgrow God?
by nicolaou infirstly let me say that i am not trying to offend believers - i was one for most of my life.
nor is this a discussion about whether god/religion is a 'good' or 'bad' thing, that argument will rage forever.
what i'm asking is really a simple question;.
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If you want a factual essay with neat explanatory refs at the bottom of every comment I make you can wait all day mates.
yes please...oh, i see. nevermind...
i understand that you were attempting to facetiously carry an evolutionist's beliefs to "their logical ends", and not actually spouting your own personal worldview, however, i am fairly certain you will be hard pressed to find a single evolutionist that subscribes to your sensationalised "logical end" as described in your above posts. your argument is a strawman that doesn't apply to ANYONE and therefore is hardly useful.
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Society once again teaches: Creative days were 7000 years each!
by sir82 in"long time lurker, first time poster".
thought everybody would enjoy this snippet of an e-mail, from a friend of a friend who is in the current gilead class:.
"...brother liverance gave a fascinating talk on bible chronology.
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Praise be to Jah!!!
modern science will be so glad to hear that the God of Economy has brought to light the fact that decades and decades of painstaking archaelogical/biological observation is all completely wrong. they've been barking up the wrong tree with all of their "facts" and "fossils" and whatnot. the answer was written clear as day by goat herders millenia ago!!! stupid us!
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doogie
"Operation Rescue" - Bad Religion
the whole Against the Grain album is super good.
life ever-after is what they're in the
business for, see them brandish the key to their kingdoms door, it's
persuasive, it's a part of you and me but it's not overwhelming as
they wish it to be, if no one believed in fairy tales there would be
nothing they could do but fail yet everywhere we look someone is
trying to reassure our moral benevolence as a poeple, operation
rescue..., you may wonder where they come from, but i just wonder what
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Will humanity EVER outgrow God?
by nicolaou infirstly let me say that i am not trying to offend believers - i was one for most of my life.
nor is this a discussion about whether god/religion is a 'good' or 'bad' thing, that argument will rage forever.
what i'm asking is really a simple question;.
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i'm sorry, but i thought i should point out that your own faith-based love and altruism is shining through all too clearly.
these are some of the most closed-minded, prejudiced and offensive comments i've heard in awhile. if this is the attitude that follows faith, then i think i'll pass.