Posts by bajarama

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dateline

by bajarama in

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i hope for a terror free 11 days.

good job to all those who put this thing together.

thank you all for having the courage to stand up, may it bring about some change.. baja

bajarama

I hope for a terror free 11 days. Good job to all those who put this thing together. Thank you all for having the courage to stand up, may it bring about some change.

baja

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Bush briefed on hijacking threat before September

by ashitaka in

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washington (cnn) -- president bush's daily intelligence briefing in the weeks leading up to the september 11 terror attacks included a warning of the possibility that osama bin laden's al qaeda network would attempt to hijack a u.s.-based airliner, senior administration officials said wednesday.

but, the officials said, there was no speculation about the use of an airplane itself as a bomb or a weapon, and no specific, credible information about the possibility of a hijacking of any sort.

hijackers took over the controls of four planes on september 11, 2001. two of those planes plowed into new york's world trade center, another jetliner nose dived into the pentagon and the fourth aircraft crashed into pennsylvania woodlands after passengers tried in vain to overcome the terrorists.

bajarama

cellomould,

Don't play the puppet for the left.

baja

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A New Guy from Chicago with a Story to Tell

by Reborn2002 in

first of all id like to say hello to everyone on this website, and to thank and acknowledge each and every one of you for your individuality, personal experience, and in some cases, commitment to truth.. having read some of the heartfelt topics and posts here have served to be a great encouragement to me, more than some could imagine.

my name is jason, and i am a recovering ex-jw.. i guess this would be an ideal time to tell my life story as an abbreviated version, so here goes.. i was "born into, or raised" in the organization.

my grandfather was an elder for 45 years, and served as one of the very first jw in the south chicagoland suburbs.

bajarama

Hi Jason,

Thanks for your story! There are many of us recovering from the Watchtower experience. In time you'll find people that will like you for who you are, and not your monthly time card.

baja

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Kabul Being Attacked NOW

by Englishman in

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thats what sky news says at 5.

40 gmt.

http://www.sky.com/skynews/home.

bajarama

Yaaaahhhhhhoooooo! We're love bombing Afhganistan.

baja

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Another Watchtower Deception

by bajarama in

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i imagine most on this board have already read about this issue.

below is a excerpt from the 95' awake.

what i gather from it is the watchtower makes it sound like they foretold the return of the united nations in 1942, three years before it took place in 1945.

bajarama

Here are some more excerpts from the Proclaimers Book that prove that The Watchtower will stretch the turth (LIE) to fit their needs.

1993 Proclaimers Book chapter 8 ( 6 subheadings down)
*** jv 95 8 Declaring the Good News Without Letup (1942-1975) ***
Postwar Reorganizing
In May 1945 the hostilities of World War II in Europe came to an end. Four months later, in September, the fighting ceased in the Pacific. World War II was over. On October 24, 1945, a little over three years after the Society’s president delivered the talk “Peace—Can It Last?” the Charter of the United Nations went into effect.

1993 Proclaimers Book chapter 14 ( 6 subheadings down )
*** jv 192-3 14 "They Are No Part of the World" ***
Once again, following World War II, Christians were faced with a similar issue. This time, it involved the United Nations, successor to the League. While World War II was still under way, in 1942, Jehovah’s Witnesses had already discerned from the Bible, at Revelation 17:8, that the world peace organization would rise again, also that it would fail to bring lasting peace. This was explained by N. H. Knorr, then president of the Watch Tower Society, in the convention discourse “Peace—Can It Last?” Boldly Jehovah’s Witnesses proclaimed that view of the developing world situation. On the other hand, Catholic, Protestant, and Jewish leaders actually shared in the deliberations in San Francisco in 1945 during which the UN Charter was drafted. To observers of these developments, it was plain who wanted to be “a friend of the world” and who was endeavoring to be “no part of the world,” as Jesus had said would be true of his disciples.—Jas. 4:4; John 17:14.

baja

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Another Watchtower Deception

by bajarama in

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i imagine most on this board have already read about this issue.

below is a excerpt from the 95' awake.

what i gather from it is the watchtower makes it sound like they foretold the return of the united nations in 1942, three years before it took place in 1945.

bajarama

I imagine most on this board have already read about this issue. Below is a excerpt from the 95' Awake. What I gather from it is The Watchtower makes it sound like they foretold the return of the United Nations in 1942, three years before it took place in 1945

*** g95 1/8 11-15 My Hate Turned to Love ***
My Hate Turned to Love
A few weeks later, after I had returned home, one of Jehovah’s Witnesses called at my door. I accepted Bible literature from her. Although she called back regularly every Sunday morning, I did not give any serious thought to or read the literature she left at that time. One day, however, I came home from work more depressed than usual. My wife suggested that I read something to try to relax my mind-a booklet left by the Witnesses entitled Peace-Can It Last?
I began to read the booklet and found that I could not put it down until I had read it all. I said to my wife: “This booklet was printed in 1942. If someone on the street had then said that Hitler and Mussolini would lose the war and that the League of Nations would reappear in the form of the United Nations, people would have thought he was mentally disturbed. But what is now history is precisely what this booklet said would happen.

If you go to the United Nations web site, you'll find that the U.N was active through out World War 2.

The name "United Nations", coined by United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt, was first used in the "Declaration by United Nations" of 1 January 1942, during the Second World War, when representatives of 26 nations pledged their Governments to continue fighting together against the Axis Powers.
Inter-Allied Declaration

Signed in London on 12 June 1941, the Inter-Allied Declaration- "to work together, with other free peoples, both in war and in peace" -was a first step towards the establishment of the United Nations.
UK PM Churchill, US Pres. Roosevelt at Atlantic Charter. HMS Prince of Wales, 14 Aug 41 (24469 UN/DPI).
Atlantic Charter

On 14 August 1941, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt of the United States and Prime Minister Winston Churchill of the United Kingdom proposed a set of principles for international collaboration in maintaining peace and security. The document, signed during a meeting on the ship HMS Prince of Wales, "somewhere at sea", is known as the Atlantic Charter.

Declaration by United Nations
On 1 January 1942, representatives of 26 Allied nations fighting against the Axis Powers met in Washington, D.C. to pledge their support for the Atlantic Charter by signing the "Declaration by United Nations". This document contained the first official use of the term "United Nations", which was suggested by President Roosevelt.

In a declaration signed in Moscow on 30 October 1943, the Governments of the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom, the United States and China called for an early establishment of an international organization to maintain peace and security. That goal was reaffirmed at the meeting of the leaders of the United States, the USSR, and the United Kingdom at Teheran on 1 December 1943.

... http://www.un.org/aboutun/history.htm

... http://www.un.org/aboutun/milestones.htm

Yes the internet is a dangerous place for dubs. The Watchtower will ban from the U.N. web site here soon.

baja

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Erica's Ritzville Trial Results

by silentlambs in

well i hope this is the last chapter regarding the ritzville trial of manuel beliz.

perhaps he now can become a statistic in the roles of sex offenders who go to jail for their crimes.

as you may recall in the first hearing things were much different and intimidating to erica and her family.

bajarama

Glad to hear the good news, Bill! Job well done!

baja

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view of an American from Afghanistan

by Tatiana in

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this was posted on another forum by someone i talk to.....any thoughts on this post?.

"this was sent to me from a friend and is supposedly written by an american that is from afghanistan.

> i've been hearing a lot of talk about "bombing .

bajarama

No problem, will just write this attack off and let the whole thing go. We'll just wait to do something until they nuke Washington D.C.

Wake Up People, we can't let this go, or we will end up playing the bitch role. The gun is to are heads, we must act and put these thugs in their place, like six feet under. Yes the cost will be high, but we must play the cards we have been dealt.

DOWN WITH TALIBAN! BEN LADEN I HOPE YOU AND YOUR FOLLOWERS DIE SLOW DEATHS!!

BAJA

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