Posts by mamochan13

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Fuming, Angry, seething, seeing RED!!!!!!!!!!

by Gill in

my parents went to the assembly this weekend.

they were telling me about disciplining children... the speaker was saying how all babies are born selfish and demanding for their own needs and not anyone elses.

the jist of the talk being about discipline, and training children ...ie taking them out for a good beating.. well, i don't know if any of you have ever 'just seen red!

mamochan13

good point, Avishai - I should have said "cute" story - as this is the wording used by those who related the story.

I certainly don't think its cute, its very sad.

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Fuming, Angry, seething, seeing RED!!!!!!!!!!

by Gill in

my parents went to the assembly this weekend.

they were telling me about disciplining children... the speaker was saying how all babies are born selfish and demanding for their own needs and not anyone elses.

the jist of the talk being about discipline, and training children ...ie taking them out for a good beating.. well, i don't know if any of you have ever 'just seen red!

I recall a "cute" story told in our hall. A small child had been misbehaving during the meeting, and the mother made repeated attempts to sush him/her, threatening to visit "the bathroom" if the behaviour continued. Finally the mother grabbed the child & dragged her/him towards the back. As they reached halfway down the aisle, the poor child, knowing what was coming, looked up and screamed out, "help me, Jehovah!"

I don't know if its common behaviour among JW's, I do recall being taught the "children are born selfish" idea, and I do remember some really awful things parents did to their kids who misbehaved during meetings (i.e. take them to the back, spank them, then hold their head down forcibly for a while to demonstrate proper position during prayer).

I spanked my children on occasion, simply because that was how I was raised - nothing to do with the religion, really. It was how my parent's and my generation did things. We know better now, of course. But I was not abused at the meetings, nor were my children, thankfully.

I used to always sit in the front row at the meeting with my children, who were normally very well-behaved. But I do recall at least one occasion when I was holding my daughter, and she was playfully making faces and talking to the people in the row behind her (she was about 2 years old). One of the elders came and asked me to remove my child because she was creating a disturbance. I was furious. They later instructed me that I should sit in the back (all parents with small children were supposed to do so). I ignored them and continued to sit in the front row. Heh. no wonder they DF'd me as soon as they had a chance!

33

Well....the wife and I are going back to the Kingdom Hall.

by jimbob in

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friends

before i explain why, i've never really given anyone a background on myself, even though i've been a member here for 2 1/2 years.

so i'll try and make this quick.. i was raised a jw my whole life.

i know many jw's in the seattle area and eastside.

mamochan13

I'm in agreement - you are doing a good thing. When my aunt died and I went to the memorial, I too had vowed never to set foot in a KH again. But my daughters and I found it to be such a reinforcing experience - we all discussed afterwards how weird it felt and how happy it made us to be out of it.

It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks - you and your wife know why you are going.

36

Do you ever DEFEND Witnesses?

by GetBusyLiving in

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friends

i know i come on here a lot and laugh at the crazy stuff i used to believe.. it's a terrific place to vent my frustration at the org.

and share experiences with people who understand.

but i find that when some people trash talk witnesses who were never part of it i end up sort of defending them usually.

mamochan13

I don't call it "defending", but like a few others have said, I will set the record straight if someone is completely off the wall. I also sometimes explain why certain beliefs are held - because I think it can be a way to promote tolerance and understanding. I left the religion because of intolerance, so I will not practice it myself.

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WT banned music

by truth_about_the_truth in

it's been a while since the society has been specific about what kind of music to avoid hasn't it?.

the last i remember was when the said to stay away from rap and heavy metal.

that was a while ago.

mamochan13

I heard that about macarena - it was nonsense. They used to ban the Bird Dance too (maybe this was a Canada thing?)

They banned anything that was popular and attracted people. Fleetwood Mac was banned because Stevie Nicks was a witch.

I know, I was a musician, we were always being criticized for certain songs...they would read anything into any lyric.

bottom line - if the masses like it, jw's see it as demonic.

7

Any Smallville fans out there?

by New Worldly Translation in

i'm a big fan of smallville but i feel the series needs a kick of adrenaline.

some of the episodes are more like a teen drama mixed with an dash of scooby doo.

all the sexual tension between clark, lana, lex, chloe does keep me glued to the series though.

mamochan13

Its a cool show if you are an "old" fan of superman comics. It is a really neat take on the story. But I do find this season has become really dark (literally and story line), and it is drifting from the original premise, so its not as good as before. Still worth watching.I think Kristin is beautiful, doesnt' surprise me to hear that she's got an attitude. Michael Rosenbaum (Lex) is hot too! :-)

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Jackson'd Case, Potential Door To Open Pedophilia Stories

by Golf in

the mj case is predicted to last 6 months.

this time frame can have a very crucial impact on the jw org.

and their mishandling the pedophile problem.

mamochan13

I doubt the media will link Jackson and his JW upbringing to this current trial. I'm not sure its relevant, either. A twisted upbringing isnt a defense, and he had so many other things wrong with the way he was raised - being a sort-of JW is a minor one, in my opinion.

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March KM - George Benson CD

by Angharad in

not sure if this has been posted.

there have been a few threads about the george benson singing kingdom melodies cd that is doing the rounds in dubdom.

seems the wt doesnt like it.

mamochan13

Wallflower - I think this is old news, but supposedly this is a Prince version of a JW tune

http://www.latindimples.com/prince/

I didn't destroy any of my LP's (too precious), but I had many friends who dumped their Stevie Nicks, Rolling Stones, Alan Parsons, Alice Cooper, Kate Bush...it was like Fahrenheit 451, burn the books! So silly

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How Far Would You Have Gone To Prove Your Loyalty To The Organization?

by minimus in

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friends

would you have not taken a transfusion?

would you make sure that your child was deprived of one, too?

would you have turned in your own family member to the elders?..........just how far would you have gone in showing allegiance to the cult?

mamochan13

good question, Minimus. I'm afraid to even contemplate the answer. I think I would have died for the organization. Fortunately I was never tested to the limit regarding my children - but I probably would have sacrificed them- I certainly put them through hell because of misguided teachings.

I know I did treat some friends horribly because I thought it was OK to disfellowship. At the same time, I did rebel against the rules and disobeyed the no-contact order...so maybe (or I'd like to think this is so) I would not have proven loyal to the end when push came to shove...

I'm not going to speculate. Thank god I got out before I had to ever make that choice.

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What Have You Learned From This Site?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i see that some people feel that jwd is a godsend.

they've learned so much in so short of time.....have you been helped by this site and other similar ones here on the internet?

mamochan13

I've learned plenty. This site is an excellent source of all kinds of info about jw's and I really appreciate the knowledgeable people here who take time to share their research. It has also made me realize that there are many who are still struggling to get out - I'm glad there is a place like this where support can be given and received. This site is reinforcing, helps me know that I've made the right decision.