Not earth-shattering, but soooo typical.
mamochan13
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AWAKE! misquote concerning Higher Education
by DATA-DOG incheck it out.
first, the article...... awake!
where can you get the best education?.
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I Think My Marriage Is Over...
by cognac ini know exactly what happened... he thinks i'm going to die at the big a and wants to be with someone he can live forever with.... we have two girls, ages 3 and 1... i really thought we'd make it despite the religion, now i really don't think so... not sure what to do... .
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mamochan13
JamieBowers - thanks for the reminder. I had forgotten that Cognac posted that stay-at-home mom and dads thread. So you are supporting his ass while he sits at home and expects you to do all the work while he gets it on with some little JW chick? Hmmm. Sheds some new light on your problem, I would say. Cognac - I've been cheated on and it's horrible. I've also survived as a single parent. It's not easy, but it's better than staying in a relationship where you are valued so little.
I'm inclined to think that in your situation it's time for you to be strong, get out, file for divorce and hold your head up high. Moshe gave some adivce on another thread about taking decisive action rather than taking things slow because it could be a lifesaver. I didn't agree with him in that case, but I think it's good advice for you. If you are the one to take action now, I think you will be better off in the end. It might wake your husband up and let him see what he's losing (if you still think the marriage is worth saving). If it doesn't, it will put you in a position of strength because you are not taking the victim role. You will have the power to take your life in the direction you want it to go.
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mamochan13
I love it. I want one!
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apologies for how long, dry and boring this is but I just wanted to share...
by Glander inperfect thread title if you don't want anyone to even hit on it.. i guarantee you could make someone read the list of ingredients on a package of instant breakfast mix if you worded it the right way..
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mamochan13
That's a good point, Glander. I think there is a tendency to feel apologetic for leaning on others, as if our experience is somehow not worthy of help.
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Be Careful, Demons are in EVERYTHING!
by TeenageInsider inmy parents always says that demons are everywhere!
it's getting quite annoying!
they claims demons are in smurfs?
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mamochan13
My mom was a big demon believer. She had purchased some second hand chairs from a st. vincent de paul store and was convinced from day one that there was something wrong with them. Finally one night she had a night terror experience and threw the chairs out, certain they were possessed.
I also had an elder come into my house after my psycho brother-in-law had freaked out during a family get together. The movie ET was sitting on the table, and the elder told me that it must have brought demons into the house to cause the problems.
WE always heard lots of ouija board demon stories, too, and we were not allowed to have any smurfs.
When I began to study psychology in earnest it was fascinating to learn the way our minds can take fear and construct tangible experiences.
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mamochan13
Well, I guess I"m old enough, but I prefer not to think about it so I couldn't really say...
Grace - you are the kind of person I aspire to be when I reach 86, and I also hope you stick around for a long, long time yet. I may not subscribe to your brand of faith, but I love the way you express your freedom from slavery!
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Ingemar - your situation is scary, but I think the best advice you've been offered so far is to take it slow and be patient. Don't panic. There is a lot of information on cults out there besides Hassan's books. The anti-scientology website at xenu.net has a Bookshelf section with a long list of recommended cult books and there are several excellent websites you can google i.e. "cult mind control". The thing with JWs is that they don't appear to be a cult on the surface.
Arm yourself with knowledge, and drop little bits here and there. Ask thought-provoking questions without insisting on an answer or a dialogue - just to get him thinking.
Keep reinforcing the positives in your relationship. Celebrate the memories of the things you do together that JWs can't: i.e. "remember what a great xmas we had last year?" Don't oppose or resist openly because that just feeds the "people hate JWs" crap. Build on activities that he can't do as a JW - i.e. being part of an organized sports or hobby groups, celebrations. I suspect your husband may be looking for that group hug feeling. Where I live many people work away from home in work camps for long stretches. It can be lonely and leave you wanting social interactions. Build a group of friends if you haven't already. Invite them for meals, social activities you can do together.
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January 2013 warns parents to resist contact with df'd children again
by stuckinlimbo insee page 15-16. full of "straw men" like:.
* do not blame yourself it is the child that jehovah blames - parents do not care whose fault it is they just want their child not to be killed by god.
* it is ok for parents to hope their df'd child returns - was anybody really asking if that was wrong?.
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mamochan13
Yep. keep rejecting your own children. Sign a few more death warrants. How I hate this cult.
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I Think My Marriage Is Over...
by cognac ini know exactly what happened... he thinks i'm going to die at the big a and wants to be with someone he can live forever with.... we have two girls, ages 3 and 1... i really thought we'd make it despite the religion, now i really don't think so... not sure what to do... .
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mamochan13
Cognac - I know how it feels and my heart hurts for you. I cannot add much more to the great advice you've been given here, except to reinforce a few things.
1. try a different counsellor until you find one that clicks
2. keep a journal
3. be practical regarding finances.
4. start building yourself up to be strong and independent (as Qcmbr said)
I was in charge of our money, so at the beginning of the year I paid off all his credit cards instead of mine. A month later he walked. I was stuck with the debts and no job. He had the big paycheque and was scot free. Being a single parent is not the end of the world, but I found the financial part was the worst. Not having money to feed your kids. Protect yourself and your kids.
The above will help you, even if your marriage is salvageable.
Personally I'd be hesitant about expending too much energy spying. While you need to keep a record for your own protection, you are better off moving forward.
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JW's Sandy Respond Show off
by pixel inthis just post on their website:.
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http://www.jw.org/en/news/by-region/americas/united-states/video-clip-hurricane-sandy-relief/.
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mamochan13
Interesting the contrast, though. JWs only help each other. THe Mormons were helping everyone. Near the end of the Mormon video he says that Catholics and Islamic groups came by and they gave them yellow vests so they could pitch in. Can you imagine that happening with JWs? The JWs all had their little identity cards and there is no way they would give any kind of "vest" to nonbelievers (esp. Catholics) to let them join in and help.
I was involved in a JW disaster relief many years ago when I lived in Central America. They sent out a call for helpers, but the only people eligible to help were pioneers, COs, missionaries, elders, etc. - in other words, you had to be part of the elite crowd.