Posts by ballistic

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Past Light

by Frenchy in

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"...sincere people...who desire to understand the truth and know what the future holds, will study and give heed to what is written in the word of truth...this does not at all mean that such sincere persons must join any organization under the sun.".

enemies by j.f.

rutherford.

ballistic

Did anyone know that the now dis-continued booklet Jehovah's Witnesses in the 21st Century had a paragraph suggesting that the faithfull and Discreet Slave are still examining the bible and searching for truth through study????
Well, I expect they are, but they just don't want anyone else to do research, oh no.
And don't forget:

If you discovered the secret of time travel tonight, and went back in time with all your wisdom, and new light...

you would be disfellowshipped.

I was too far out... and not waving but drowning - Stevie Smith

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URGENT! Need help!

by SlayerLayer in

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i just had a long conversation with my mother.

she went into her "you know it's the truth" routine.

in a nutshell, i told her that i have found too many discrepancies in the wts.. i told her abbout the 607bce date.

ballistic

OK, I can think of 101 things which I've found all over the net, but I'll trying to think of something original.

Consider these question which bothered me a lot:
Is having faith something that can be learnt from bible studies with Jehovah's Witnesses?
Is loving God and having a relationship with him something you can be taught?
When the Witnesses try to prove the authenticity of the bible with historical and scientific information, are they saying faith should be backed up by facts when by definition faith isn't?
Big Question: Are Jehovah's Witnesses open-minded? They say they ARE, but how can they be when they are forcefully prevented from speaking to or reading information from people with alternative views?
Finally. with such a high turnover rate of members, is God playing dice with who happens to be in the org. or out when the end comes, in view of the fact that a Witness can at no point gaurantee they have been "saved"?

These are just a few of the questions that I had, I know they're simple but I was trying to think of original things.

I was too far out... and not waving but drowning - Stevie Smith

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Remote Viewing

by funkyderek in

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following on from the anybody else had visions?

thread below ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=10144&site=3).

i have offered a prize of 50 american dollars or the equivalent in your currency of choice for whoever can guess (or envision or whatever) the contents of a picture i have chosen.. i will be emailing the picture, in password zip format to [email protected] along with unambiguous details of what qualifies as a correct guess.

ballistic

I think it's a picture of the sky and a cloud.

At least that's what I saw as I looked up and tried to think.

I was too far out... and not waving but drowning - Stevie Smith

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For Sale - Books

by hippikon in

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watchtower volumes 1950 - 2000. awake volumes 1970-2000. most other books 1950 -2000. some older rainbow books etc.

plus "faith on the march", "digging up the past" etc etc convention programs, cals, ybs, kms etc etc etc.

also translations - philips, knox etc etc.

ballistic

Looking for a current version of the watchtower library on CD. I have up to 1995.
Anyone?

I was too far out... and not waving but drowning - Stevie Smith

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depression

by toddy in

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is it true statistically,j.w's suffer from depression far more than the rest of us?

ballistic

seven, your post was both informative and usefull,
however, I wish to re-adjust the balance of your argument.
You correctly state there are many causes for depression.
I happen to believe that the JW organisation may both attract and create depressive personalities.
But I also understand that depression is a naturally occuring disease which affects 1 in 3 people at some point in their lives, to one extent or another.
The only reason I bring this up is because while reading your post, one may think,"great, the Jehovah's Witnesses are responsible for ALL my ills", while in actuall fact, depression is an illness just like cancer.
I don't in any way mean that being a JW does not add to or trigger depression which I believe it can.

I was too far out... and not waving but drowning - Stevie Smith

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Monopoly for JWs and ExJWs?

by individuals wife in

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a board game especially for those with an interest in the workings of the organisation.... maybe one board for jws and one for exjws?.

heres a few ideas to start us off......... little houses = kingdom halls.

big hotels = assembly halls.

ballistic

You don't advance by throwing dice, no...
you advance by making large donations,
putting up circuit overseers,
befriending elders,
being in the right clique,
& by not asking questions.

I was too far out... and not waving but drowning - Stevie Smith

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Internet Use?

by ballistic in

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what is the society's view on internet use?

i get the impression it is discouraged.. i also ask because the society over the years have had a love hate relationship with technology, extolling it's virtues one minute (such as in their early use of colour film and portable record players), and then blaming it for many of todays ills.. interestingly, i just found a section in the proclaimers book, stating that the staffing levels at watchtower construction sites around the globe had been reduced by using modern technology, while other articles suggest that technology is an evil in that it will put people out of jobs.. p.s.

i only have literature up to 1995, but the number of references to technology in awake!

ballistic

Thanks for that, I'm glad to see that the society finds our discussions informative:

Other individual have disowned the truth because of believing information provided by apostates.

I was too far out... and not waving but drowning - Stevie Smith

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Internet Use?

by ballistic in

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what is the society's view on internet use?

i get the impression it is discouraged.. i also ask because the society over the years have had a love hate relationship with technology, extolling it's virtues one minute (such as in their early use of colour film and portable record players), and then blaming it for many of todays ills.. interestingly, i just found a section in the proclaimers book, stating that the staffing levels at watchtower construction sites around the globe had been reduced by using modern technology, while other articles suggest that technology is an evil in that it will put people out of jobs.. p.s.

i only have literature up to 1995, but the number of references to technology in awake!

ballistic

If they're really interested in saving paople, surely they would want to use every means possible and as soon as possible?

I was too far out... and not waving but drowning - Stevie Smith

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depression

by toddy in

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is it true statistically,j.w's suffer from depression far more than the rest of us?

ballistic

In English congregations, they have a the phrase "kingdom-smile".
This is the kind of smile only a depressed Jehovah's Witness can manage.
The smile is tight and wan, and any claims of happiness have a hollow and superficial ring. Between the smiles, the face reveals deeply etched signs of tension and depression, and shows of enforced joyfullness rarely last long.
I was told to put on this smile many times by an Elder.

I was too far out... and not waving but drowning - Stevie Smith

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Internet Use?

by ballistic in

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what is the society's view on internet use?

i get the impression it is discouraged.. i also ask because the society over the years have had a love hate relationship with technology, extolling it's virtues one minute (such as in their early use of colour film and portable record players), and then blaming it for many of todays ills.. interestingly, i just found a section in the proclaimers book, stating that the staffing levels at watchtower construction sites around the globe had been reduced by using modern technology, while other articles suggest that technology is an evil in that it will put people out of jobs.. p.s.

i only have literature up to 1995, but the number of references to technology in awake!

ballistic

What is the society's view on Internet use? I get the impression it is discouraged.
I also ask because the society over the years have had a love hate relationship with technology, extolling it's virtues one minute (such as in their early use of colour film and portable record players), and then blaming it for many of todays ills.

Interestingly, I just found a section in the Proclaimers book, stating that the staffing levels at Watchtower construction sites around the globe had been REDUCED by using modern technology, while other articles suggest that technology is an evil in that it will put people out of jobs.

p.s. I only have literature up to 1995, but the number of references to technology in Awake! was 666.

I was too far out... and not waving but drowning - Stevie Smith