I rarely post here, but often lurk. When I was breaking free from the mind control that is synonymous with the Watchtower, the quotes site, Watchtower.ca was THE site that helped me put the long troubled history and doctrinal problems of the society into perspective. It confirmed many of the things I'd suspected while being raised a witness. The Quotes site was powerful due to it's simplicity. How can you refute it? The conclusions are your own and the quotes are accurate. It's all the information needed to verify the Watchtower's flip flops, lies, ignorance and delusions of grandier. Unfortunately, the society was successful in getting the original and I believe subsequent mirror sites shutdown. I know that other sites are now hosting the same content but I believe many current witnesses would look at these sites with more of a jondus eye since they appear to be related to "apostate" material and commentary. The good news is that the original site, as it existed back in 2005, is still accessible on archive.org. See the link below. http://web.archive.org/web/20050210180741/quotes.watchtower.ca/ If this is old new, I apologize.
Posts by 2evil
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Resurrection Of Watchtower.ca
by 2evil ini rarely post here, but often lurk.
when i was breaking free from the mind control that is synonymous with the watchtower, the quotes site, watchtower.ca was the site that helped me put the long troubled history and doctrinal problems of the society into perspective.
it confirmed many of the things i'd suspected while being raised a witness.
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Is there a website with publications for download?
by roflcopter ini am looking to get a hold of scans of some books like revelation, secret to family happiness, etc...
is there a website that has these for download?
if so can you give me the link.
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i would like access to such a site...
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What are yer favorite song lyrics???
by missy04 inwhat's everybodys' favorite songs/song lyrics??.
"boulevard of broken dreams" by greenday.
"my shadow's the only one that walks beside me.
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Those are awsome lyrics... My favorite has got to be: The Doors Wild Child All right Wild child full of grace Savior of the human race Your cool face Natural child, terrible child Not your mother's or your father's child Your our child, screamin' wild An ancient rulage of grains And the trees of the night Ha, ha, ha, ha With hunger at her heels Freedom in her eyes She dances on her knees Pirate prince at her side Stirrin' into a hollow idols eyes Wild child full of grace Savior of the human race Your cool face Your cool face Your cool face Do you remember when we were in Africa?
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Questions
by 2evil inok, this is my first post.
i'm 30 years old.
raised in "the truth" my whole life.
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I'm done. Read coc, now just have to figure out the way out for all of us...
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Electronic Download- Crisis of Conscience?
by 2evil inis there anywhere i can buy an electronic download of crisis of conscience?
i would have a hard time reading this in book form since i'm rarely alone and i really can't read it at work.
thanks.
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Is there anywhere I can buy an electronic download of Crisis of Conscience? I would have a hard time reading this in book form since I'm rarely alone and I really can't read it at work. Thanks.
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Questions
by 2evil inok, this is my first post.
i'm 30 years old.
raised in "the truth" my whole life.
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I hear you, but I as I said in an earlier post, I can't feel guily anymore. I only began doubting because they changed "the truth". Not my fault... It's a simple fact, though, if I believed everything hook line and sinker she could have what she thinks she wants.
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Questions
by 2evil inok, this is my first post.
i'm 30 years old.
raised in "the truth" my whole life.
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No, I don't want to progress in that way. And my wife doesn't care about being the wife of an elder. She just wants to feel that we are all doing what we should be doing. See, she has a distorted view of other families. She believes that those families that are perfect JW cookie cutter families are really happy. Though she grew up in the "truth" her family was never regular out in service, had a family study or any "spiritual" activities. She never had this so this is what she wants and cannot have because of my views and distrust of the society. I can deal with upsetting anyone. That isn't the problem. I don't want to LOSE my family. Either my immediate family or my extended.
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Questions
by 2evil inok, this is my first post.
i'm 30 years old.
raised in "the truth" my whole life.
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Annanias, What I mean about "not progressing" is that I'm not going to "progress" within the congregation because I have these doubts. That is how I have been characterizing it with my wife. Not a lot is currently going on at my house since I hasven't brought anything up in a couple months. It will come up again though.
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Questions
by 2evil inok, this is my first post.
i'm 30 years old.
raised in "the truth" my whole life.
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I should explain what my wife means by "what she wants". My wife is a rare person. She does love me for me, almost to a fault. She is afraid right now. What she wants is a "spiritual family, that goes out in service and studies together." Since I've told her that it's my doubts that are holding me back and I wont talk to the elders about it further she concludes that I will not progress and it will "effect our whole family." Her intentions are good. She believes this is the truth whole heartedly. Gets depressed when she misses meetings, etc. I wish she would open her mind a bit on her own. It's just not going to happen.
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Questions
by 2evil inok, this is my first post.
i'm 30 years old.
raised in "the truth" my whole life.
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Actually, I have looked into the 607 issue before. I remember looking this up on the CD a few years ago and finding the explanation given plausable. I will research it again. The reason the generation change sticks out in my mind so much is that it was used so much in service while I was growing up. This put a timeframe to the time of the end and was used to show people the urgency of the times. It just had to change. They had no choice. From the little bit I read from Franz book (posted somewhere on Atlanta Journal Constitiution) I remember him wonder how and when they would deal with this. Inkie: What I mean by "not a good witness" is that I put in maybe 1-3 hours per month in service. Have for the last 10 years. I don't do personal study and religion in general really doesn't interest me that much. The bookstudy and watchtower are not so hard to follow that I have ever felt that I need to study them a head of time. I pick up on misapplication of scripture and the interwoven themes of organizational authority and loyalty every meeting. I was born into this and I'm just trying to keep my family together. I don't want to make any life ENDING decisions along the way.